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  1. Why does everyone have beef with lemmy.ml
  2. Why don’t you just block the instance

Edit: thank you for real responses, got so used to be people getting pissed for no reason on social media that I was genuinely surprised to check Lemmy and see a bunch of genuine answers with no butthurt to be seen

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Lemmy has a very different community than Reddit - here, people are often outright kind.

In part that’s a large reason for the beef with Lemmy.ml, e.g. recently a mod there removed comments for a user over a misunderstanding in a game, and in the process said that they (the MOD!) wanted to shoot them (the OP), doubling down and even tripping down to say “I hope you die soon”. (Described in more detail here.)

It is ironic that one of the very first Lemmy instances, and also being the one whose admins are also the developers of the Lemmy sourcecode, is so much less like the rest of the people on Lemmy, and more like Reddit. But it is what it is.

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Lemmy.ml is admin’d and moderated mostly by Marxists, and the liberal side of Lemmy is hostile to that. That’s the principle contradiction, everything else stems from that core issue.

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13 points

Their mods behave like Russian commissars. Their users go along with it.

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20 points

I choose not to block the instance because there is a very small group on there that have non-political discussions that I enjoy, same with hexbear.

I also don’t like creating an echo chamber where all I hear is what I want to hear. Hearing from the other side, as disgusting as their viewpoints can be, at least let’s me know how they think.

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-4 points

the other side

Kremlin propaganda isn’t the other side

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5 points

Yet propaganda is what has the US where we are today. If you understand the propaganda, you can help push back.

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6 points

I like this view, because I have zero idea what I just walked in on. This account is just 16 days old and I’m just here to chat non-politics and doomscroll. And by 16 days old I mean like 4 because their acceptance email got sent to spam and I didn’t notice it until then.

Tbh, I had no idea there were even factions or drama among the instances.

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I started on .ml, and left after a couple months when I realized I was the only person on the instance who wasn’t a tanky fully committed to arguing with every post I see. They seem to have toned down a bit after getting defederated a couple times, but there are a lot of extremists on that instance, and they’re very loud. I felt like I was in a Chinese political re-education camp half the time.

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You should make an account on another instance, if you don’t like the heavy hand of defederation of .world, lemmy.sdf.org is a good one and sh.itjust.works is another

There’s also this community if you want to see for yourself the kind of behavior the admins and mods of .ml support, encourage and even participate in !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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I don’t agree with their tankie views, but it does force me to see other views. However I usually just eyeroll and move on.

If I see racism or hate though that’s an immediate block.

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2 points

Agreed, if it’s targeted like that, you get a block.

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16 points

Why does everyone have beef with lemmy.ml

Extending an invitation to peruse !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for some context of mod behavior

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2 points

The mods of that community are communists. They seem to mod in good faith but keep that in mind.

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-2 points

Your comment has been removed for including carnist hate words. We don’t use words that glorify murder like the “b” word.

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7 points

Huh

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7 points

They’re making a shitty “HAHA VEGANS DUMB” joke like it’s 2010.

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25 points

The ml in lemmy ml means marxism-leninism, it’s maintained by the lemmy devs so it has lots of “normal” users too. Some people associate lemmy.ml with “tankie” viewpoints.

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The ml stands for Mali, which is the country the instance domain is registered to. The Marxist-Leninist connection is a happy coincidence for them.

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16 points

Lemmy devs are tankies, especially the main maintainer

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3 points

At least they’re more level headed than Nutomic is.

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The ml in lemmy ml means marxism-leninism

It means Mali and was chosen because it was cheap/free

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chosen because it was cheap

Um nah, there are a LOT of cheap ass TLDs, hell even .com TLDs are only $10-20 a YEAR

It might not actually mean marxism-leninism (then again, who the hell knows, we have .zip TLDs now ffs), but it sure does to the .ml admins

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16 points

You’re both right!

It is Mali’s domain, and Marxist-Leninists choose that domain to work out of because of the initialism.

Kinda like why BIOT’s domain is so popular with the tech folks.

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3 points

I wouldn’t have a problem with if it wasn’t for the mods

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14 points
  1. Lots of toxicity and bad takes.
  2. It isn’t literally the entire instance.
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-6 points

Yeah, Hexbear is the worst. I would say exploding heads, but they’re gone now.

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In my experience it is pretty much the entire instance. All the sane people moved to other places.

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1 point

It isn’t literally the entire instance.

Maybe not, but when the admins and mods are part of the problem, it becomes pervasive.

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5 points

fedia.io doesn’t support blocking, unfortunately 😭

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Why does everyone have beef with lemmy.ml

The admins and mods cultivate a community of genocide denial and authoritarian apologism, which many users on the instance then buy into.

Why don’t you just block the instance

Instance blocking only blocks communities, not users, who still show up whenever there’s a Chinese genocide to deny or a Russian atrocity to “WHATABOUT”, or a non-Western aligned dictator to “BOTHSIDES”.

My current favorite is Taliban-simping.

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9 points

You are forgetting the strong hatred for France.

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16 points

When I accidentally blocked an instance, any comment from a user on that instance would be replaced by a message like “you have blocked this instance and so will not see this comment.” I don’t know if that’s a feature of my client, Connect, or of lemmy itself.

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7 points

Damn I’m jealous of your client! That’s a new feature to me!

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13 points

Should be your client.

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5 points

In my experience, the mods on lemmy.ml are particularly biased. Like it’s okay to joke about American school shootings but not about abortions biased. But after a while I just stopped posting there. (I barely post to lemmy at all now, but that’s another story.)

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3 points

I’m pretty sure making jokes about shootings is worse that jokes about abortions.

Honestly they are both inappropriate

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Reasonable people can disagree about the rules, the point is the mods are inconsistent.

(But seriously, do you really want to say one is worse than the other?)

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