Summary

President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, reversing his prior stance against using executive clemency.

The pardon covers Hunter’s federal gun conviction and tax evasion guilty plea, sparking political controversy.

Biden cited political attacks and a “miscarriage of justice” as reasons for his decision, emphasizing his son’s recovery from addiction and the targeting of his family.

Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers.

This decision shields Hunter from potential prison time as Biden nears the end of his presidency.

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To be fair, the biggest charge is the gun charge, and that’s from lying on the 4473.

Honestly, that question shouldn’t even be on the form, and I know loads of people who lie on that form, same question, all the time.

Weed is legal, but if you admit it, you can’t buy a firearm to defend yourself from fash.

But, you can be a drunk, mow down kids in your SUV, and that’s dandy.

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Habitual Drunkard is also on that form as a disqualifier, so you would have to lie about that as well if you were a drunk.

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No it isn’t. Look here:

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download

Nowhere is “being a drunk” a DQ for owning a gun. Hell, being drunk, while buying the gun doesn’t preclude you.

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Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

I could read that to include being an alcoholic. But I can also read it as being addicted to caffeine.

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That may all be perfectly true, but my point was more about how this case was treated by the democrats and their supporters. After the verdict, few people raised the points you just did. Instead, the narrative was all about how unlike republicans, democrats respected the law and would fully support the verdict. Biden himself even publicly ruled out a pardon.

Now that the pardon actually happened, that is all immediately forgotten. The narrative changed and democrats expect their supporters to get in line. Trumpists have been doing that kind of thing every other day, but the democrats are starting to do it as well. That’s what worries me.

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It worries you?

This is the line that worries you?

Not the line drawn where the SCOTUS said the POTUS is above the law?

Not the line drawn where a literal card carrying neonazi was appointed to the cabinet?

Not the line drawn by Reich Wingers attempting a violent coup?

Not the line drawn by literal Nazis marching in the streets in the US just this year?

THIS is your moral line?

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I can be worried about more than one thing at a time mate. And where did I ever say anything about a moral line? I obviously don’t approve of the fascist things the fascist party does and yes, they deeply worry me, despite not even living in the US. That doesn’t mean that the democrats are somehow absolved of all criticism and can’t do anything wrong.

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Outrage is what we should have all seen when Donald Trainwreck pardoned this corrupt Democratic governor for the sole reason of normalizing corruption. There is no Democrat who wanted him to do this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Blagojevich

Anybody who didn’t complain about that way more serious thing doesn’t have any reason to complain about this much less serious thing.

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Starting? If there’s one thing people should learn from the 2024 election, it’s that Blue MAGA exists and they’re just as stupid and easily manipulated as the people on the right.

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So how about Biden just fixes that form and claim that it shouldn’t have been illegal to do that to begin with?

He literally is saying it was BS and I’ll undo it for just my son, the rest of Americans in the same situation I don’t care about.

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Because it literally requires congress to do it.

And the rest of Americans rarely get charged for it… Its only used as an “add on” when there’s other charges already.

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Because Republicans have no appetite to change the form. They like it this way, most people who break the law will never be prosecuted, but when they want to prosecute someone it’s easy

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