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On the one hand, Carlson being against it makes me assume that it’s probably a good thing, but on the other I’m usually pretty against the use of landmines because they have a strong tendency to sit around for a long time and maim random civilians.

But if he said the sky was blue I’d have to go check for myself.

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Yup.

I think Biden is wrong for the reasons you lay out. It won’t just be the Russians that suffer from mining.

WWII ordinances still get pulled up pretty regularly in France.

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World War II ordinances didn’t rely on batteries and so remain(ed) dangerous for far longer.

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These are still explosive. While the triggering mechanism may go bad after the battery dies, are the explosive chemicals neutralized? What happens on a shock to the device? For example, if it’s crushed by a vehicle or hit by a plow blade?

I can grant that these are probably safer than yesteryear’s model, but I also think you are still setting up bobbytraps that are potentially dangerous for decades.

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I mean they’re being invaded, and by Russia out of all countries. Just like their use of cluster ammunition, they probably decided it’s worth the risk.

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Well, some of them did. Conscription is active in Ukraine which means there’s a lot of people involved against their will.

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Yeah, sure, because the technology is exactly the same now as it was 80 years ago.

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65 points

The landmines that Biden approved are battery powered. While they are still indiscriminate killing machines, they will self-neutralize rather than remain dangerous for decades to come.

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This. U do still have to worry about what the error rate is considering the vast number that will be deployed.

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