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How about shut up about this until elections are over? Yes, you’re all right about this, Biden is an old fart that should not be president. President should not be older than 65, period.

But there is Trump, and that, well, trumps all. Trump CANNOT become president afian, period

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You cannot will away reality. No amount of willful ignorance will make undecided people vote for Biden.

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But looking at Trump’s plans will.

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You’re assuming people are going to do that well, or at all.

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Why would the quality of his opponent make me vote for a corpse? Biden isnt going to be cognizant enough to serve his term, if hes even alive. And certainly no president at all is worse than trump

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Sure, that’s not the point though. If someone is opposed to voting for Biden because of his age then ignoring the problem will not make them magically more inclined to vote for Biden.

If we’re fighting for our future then we should have the best candidate, not the default option.

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And so they’ll vote for a guy who said multiple times he’ll turn the US into a dictatorship? The guy who has project 2025 for his policies to make it a theocratic dictatorship?

Yeah Biden is demented and senile but at this point I’d prefer a soft boiled egg over trump.

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To be fair, Biden is not demented. He is showing signs of senility though. Which is why he should step down and allow any well functioning Democrat to take his place. Because if undecided voters considered anything Trump said to be a disqualifying statement, they would not be undecided. And polling in Pennsylvania, they state Democrats really really need to win the Electoral College, is going the wrong way. There’s a moment in every presidential campaign season where the polling trend lines diverge and do not come back together. It’s usually when the independents/undecideds break for one candidate or another.

But it’s also seen when a candidate has a structural issue they cannot fix, or cannot fix in time. Swiftboating for Kerry, Palin as VP for McCain, Binders full of Women for Romney. And now that debate in June for Biden. He’s had the scandal recovery period and he hasn’t patched it up, instead it’s just getting worse. So yes. You cannot let the echo chamber keep you all fuzzy and warm. We don’t have to repeat 2016, it’s not too late.

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Yes, Caligula’s horse would be a preferable vote to cast over Trump.

That doesn’t mean a wise opposition to Trump would choose to run Caligula’s horse.

The question of “who to vote against in the general election” and “who is the best candidate to put forward as nominee in the general election” are very different questions.

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President should not be older than 65, period.

Why 65 specifically? Why not 64 or 66?

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Why not 69?

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Nice

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65 is supposed to be the age of retiremenr for a normal career

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65 is supposed to be the age of retiremenr for a normal career

“Supposed to”

In Washington DC it’s 67. In Virginia it’s 61. In 1991 it was 57. It’s based on arbitrary convention, not for any medical reason.

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65 is a typical pension age. We could make it 60 too, really

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Pension… LOL.

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Why not 33?

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A) Biden is going to lose to trump. B) The only chance we have to have a living president thats not trump is to nominate someone else. Anybody sane has already written off biden as dead. I guarantee you the entire white house staff has.

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Do you think trump wont be around in 4 years?

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Trumps health really isn’t better than Biden. Save for mental state (where he isn’t very far behind biden) Trump is in a much worse state, physically, than Biden. There is a good chance both of them aren’t around anymore 4 years from now

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So you’re okay with attempting to elect a demented old man? When democracy is on the line? That’s crazy.

He could be replaced. If only we were allowed to have that conversation……………………………………………………

How about YOU shut up and let us have the conversation. Your way gets Trump elected. We are trying to save America here.

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It’s ultimately Biden’s decision. If he doesn’t want out, he has the power to dig in and make it difficult.

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This is a democracy bro, we dont have kings. If you and biden want a monarchy, go turn traitor and join the red coats. Here in america, Biden doesnt get to be ruler just because he says he is.

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I’m saying that if he doesn’t want to step down, you don’t have the option. Yes, he should have never pushed himself for reelection, he should never gone in 2020 even. But here we are, and you WILL get the option: Trump or Biden. Yes, it’s chosing between a turd and a shitshow, but I’ll take a turd over a shitshow any day.

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Whataboutism

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Whataboutism only applies as a logical fallacy when used to avoid defense of the original accusation.

There is no avoidance here, they fully agree that Biden is old etc. etc.

Whataboutism does not apply.

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No he’s right. Shouting about Trump as a deflection from valid criticism of Biden is a classic whataboutism.

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