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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau opposed any deal letting Russia keep Ukrainian land, saying it would encourage other countries to break international rules.

Speaking to a NATO meeting, he highlighted Canada’s $19.5 billion aid to Ukraine and stressed the need to defend global stability.

Trudeau defended his plan to raise military spending to 2% of GDP by 2032 after criticism of Canada’s low defense funding.

He warned against isolating Ukraine, saying continued support is crucial to stop further global conflicts.

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56 points

Raise the military spend now. Stop kicking the can. We’ve helped, sure, but we need to do more.

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Tax the rich to fund it lol.

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Raise the military spend now.

Fuck no, cut the military spending and stop fueling wars.

Canada already spend billions of dollars in war, increasing military budget will only get you more war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures

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Canada’s expenditure as a % of gdp according to your own source is pretty weak already. Insisting on having no military spending is hardly a real argument. Also, Canada has a very real stake in ensuring russia doesn’t succeed given those coveted waters you guys have along the northern territories.

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Canada’s expenditure as a % of gdp according to your own source is pretty weak already.

Billions of dollars every year. You are feed up on propaganda, if mass media were to tell you that a billion is a big number you would be here complaining but propaganda have you thinking that you are not spending enough.

Insisting on having no military spending is hardly a real argument.

I wonder if you have any clue how these money are being spend.

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Only works if your adversaries also cut military spending. Unfortunately countries like Russia have shown that they’ll happily attack those unable to defend themselves. This also means that increased military spending can cause less war if it deters those who would otherwise attack.

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Only works if your adversaries also cut military spending.

Usa and nato spend 10 times more than what russia does. Open the link and do the math yourself. They have no good excuse to raise the military budget even according to your logic.

Unfortunately countries like Russia have shown that they’ll happily attack those unable to defend themselves.

Go check the history of your country, every authoritarian nation will try to do that. Raising military spending does not make people more secure, it only increase rulers and government power. Wars are fought by people not money.

This also means that increased military spending can cause less war if it deters those who would otherwise attack.

Spending more on war will get you more war. You can see it happening right now in ukraine and middle east.

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54 points

Agree 100% we can’t rely on our rich bi-polar brother in the methlab of a house next door to protect us anymore.

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9 points

As one of those rich bipolar methlab brothers, save yourself while you can

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You need protection from greedy politicians and the military industry sucking in public money and fueling wars.

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Finland has a pretty absurdly strong military. It really is a waste of money. But it has this military because it shares a border with Russia. If Finland did not have such a military, it would be invaded. That is what empires do. Finland’s military does not start war; it prevents it.

Ideally, neither side would have to waste money on this military, but until Russia gives up theirs, Finland can’t give up theirs either. Good luck convincing Russia to do that.

Not long ago, I would have been in total agreement with you. The very idea of stealing land through invasion was so antiquated to me that I did not believe even Russia would do it until the moment their troops crossed the Ukrainian border. Now, I reluctantly am forced to conclude that not only is Russia that backward, it probably always was, and the only reason Finland has been safe all these years is because of the military that I thought was so absurd.

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The Kremlin would be thrilled to see you in this thread shitting on the US

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9 points

That is an American pasttime

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I’m American. shitting on and shooting in America is my right bah gaw and i ain’t take kindly to no mcarthy-eque nationalist shit.

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2 points

Go hop into a river.

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39 points

I’m Canadian. It’s a rite of passage for us to love our sibling while also shit on them. Don’t mistake it for a lack of caring.

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