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76 points

You hated Discovery because it was too woke.

I hated Discovery because it wasn’t woke enough.

We are not the same.

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62 points

I hated it because half of the characters annoyed me and the other half didn’t have enough screen time

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9 points

I fucking loathe the series for introducing “Frieza” (the half mecha character), and IMMEDIATELY killing her off. Finally a somewhat interesting character, and they get fucking rid of her. Pisses me the fuck off

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Picard: “We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity”

Tilly: “I went to Elon Musk junior high school”

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8 points

I’m just going to pretend it’s one of his descendants with the same name who actually managed to do some good

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3 points

Coulld alse be named similar to a area near me, the Native Tribes never named it so its named after a random Bandit who got murdered there.

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2 points

His descendants will most likely change their name.

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5 points

I have only one response to you:

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Edit: Of course there was no response. Because there are no examples. It’s just a dog whistle for bigots.

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5 points

Even then, Trek hasn’t really pushed the boundaries for a good long time. When it hit it big by TNG/TOS Syndication, it ended up being the cash cow, and thus not worth risking for such controversial things.

At most, it’s just been nudging the norm, but the kind of radical shove that TOS had, and nearly got it pulled off the air twice is basically nowhere to be found.

At most, we got one or two token characters or plots, but a lot of it is mostly the norm, or just a little ahead of it.

Compare it to something less established and free to take on more risk, like the Orville. Since it doesn’t have the big brand that networks want to keep reaping without sowing, it gets a lot of flexibility Trek doesn’t really have any more.

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1 point

You’re not wrong but compared to this era of fascism and education shunning TNG is pretty damn good still.

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19 points

I hated Discovery because it was written like a chorus of monkeys with typewriters and not a single one of them got close to Hamlet.

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7 points

At least they got the “travel the galaxy on shrooms” part correctly.

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Yeah, really. There wasn’t much enlightened future stuff going on and they pointlessly killed (and then returned, but still) one of the gay guys for shock value(?). It’s just so poorly written that neither that nor any of the empowerment messages landed for me.

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10 points

Yeah… exactly. Although after all that I only fully gave up on the show when they jumped forward in time to a depressing future in which the Federation had dissolved. Like, way to completely and utterly miss the point of the setting. I’m gonna go cry into my earl grey now.

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5 points

I was totally on board with that premise, thinking they might basically do their version of Andromeda mixed with late-season Enterprise. But then the actual plot happened.

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2 points

Everything after the time jump felt like they were going off whatever Gene’s notes ended up becoming Andromeda.

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I thought it was because they’d received enough backlash from yet another TOS era setting/characters which contradicts canon and finally listened to advance the story into post-NEM territory. Instead they went to ludicrous speed and completely overshot everything.

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13 points

I hated discovery because of spore drives and logic extremists.

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I dislike it because of “shit wrapped in shiny”, and the black lead woman only capable of doing one expression of emotion: You put it up my ass! But wait! maybe I like it?

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7 points

I was more annoyed at the klingon subtitle style/font being difficult to read quickly. Each one talking like a kid who just shoved a whole pack of Big League Chew in their mouth from all the prosthetics also bothered me.

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Each one talking like a kid who just shoved a whole pack of Big League Chew in their mouth from all the prosthetics also bothered me.

Even worse than how bad the Ferengi were with that

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You know, you just reminded me of the episode of Enterprise where the Ferrengi took over the ship. And I was surprised how much I enjoyed (most of) it, and thought the first act where they didn’t bother giving the Ferrengi subtitlea, everything was communicated without the benefit of dialog.

I’m sure everyone else hated it, especially because of some of the weak plot points and how there wasn’t supposed to be any contact with the Ferrengi for 200 years and because everyone hates Enterprise.

On the other hand, it had Jeffrey Combs.

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3 points

I loved Discovery

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