Hey Microsoft, if you want me to upgrade to Windows 11, you could start by removing the completely arbitrary requirement to have TPM 2.0.
Why do we even need a toilet paper machine 2.0 to use windows 11?
Joke aside, yeah what’s up with that? People been able to bypass it and have no problem.
Rumour is it’s literally only there as an olive branch to hardware manufacturers to force people to buy new hardware. There’s literally no technical reasons for it.
it’s one of those things where it does legitimately improve security, but for them to require it the way they did when almost no hardware at the time has it is pretty transparent.
there are plenty of other hardware requirements that could improve security if they arbitrarily decided to require them. they did this for the rain you describe, but have the plausible deniability of saying that it’s for security.
basically, the same bullshit line that’s used to justify half of the bullshit unpopular changes that anyone pushes anywhere.
“it’s for security” - no it’s not, as a for profit company chances are pretty good we can prove you don’t actually give a shit about customer date if we look close enough at your practices. it’s for profit.
“it’s for the environment” - admirable thought, too bad that’s not profitable. I don’t believe you mr. for profit company.
“for the kids”- it you have ever tried to talk to a parent after the subject of their kids safety comes up you’ll see why they always do for this in. it’s the deepest, most primal, and least logical part of our brain. most parents become slovering fucking cavemen the second you disagree with whatever they’ve been programmed to believe will protect their kids. it’s just too easy to manipulate people with. if you say you’re great to protect kids I’m instantly skeptical and need a lot of proof.
What I heard (on here, and I hope it’s a vicious rumor) is that TPM 2.0 comes with backdoors accessible to Microsoft via the OS so that a significant chunk of the computer belongs to Big MS and not to the end user, and it will squeal and cause problems if the end user tries to take it back.
The whole point of TPM 1.0 hypothetically was to allow a larger secondary encryption key of a device to be accessible only by a small user-provided key (say a four-digit PIN), and requiring use of the key-query software to run to get the secondary key. A limited number of chances with longer delays with each wrong answer heightens security.
But this pissed off government law enforcement across the world, who want backdoors for when they want to crack the phone of a very important criminal.
It would be nice if Apple, Google and Microsoft had more respect for their end users than they do national and corporate institutions, but we know this isn’t really the case, so it’s at least plausible that TPMs 1.0 or 2.0 come pre-backdoored. It doesn’t hurt that this is exactly what FBI and NSA want even though (Pre-9/11 and Pre-PATRIOT) NSA is supposed to be assuring that no-one, not even police can crack our secure communication protocols.
Despite efforts to look into it, I’ve yet to get an answer I can fully trust whether or not they are backdoored. But since Microsoft is notorious for exactly this kind of bullshit since the 1980s, I assume it’s true that TPMs are backdoored until I find convincing information otherwise.
In lieu of the bullshit replies you have gotten, I will answer.
TPM is a security measure. By default your hard drive on Windows 11 will be protected with bit locker. Bit locker is hard drive encryption. It does more stuff but that’s the broad strokes. This means that if your laptops get stolen or your computer gets stolen or whatever it is no longer in danger of all of your information and files being taken.
There are other advantages as well. For example a TPM could make it much easier for anti-cheat to detect cheating. However, no games use it yet because not every system has a TPM, blah blah blah.
TPM is actually a really good thing. The problem is that the vast majority of systems do not have a TPM header and therefore cannot add a TPM. This means that those systems have to be replaced.
I work for a managed service provider so I deal with a lot of companies that refuse to upgrade their systems. Thanks to Windows 11 they are being forced to upgrade systems that are up to 15 years old and basically unusable. This is actually kind of a godsend. There are downsides to this yes, but it is not just some ill thought out idea.
I think when the time comes I’ll give Windows 11 ltsc a look which has tpm be optional. Less bloatware too.
Use Rufus to install it, you don’t need tpm. It also debloats it
It’s a good OS, despite what the Linux teenagers on Lemmy would have you believe
Sadly, Microsoft doesn’t need to do anything to have you to upgrade to Windows 11: you just need to buy a new device in the mainstream market. Aside from building your rig from scratch, of course.
SteamDeck is a good example: Microsoft didn’t do nothing to promote the handheld PC gaming industry, even if Valve shown that their free and licenseless OS proved to be the best one… most OEM deliver Window’s only PC handheld, because they are afraid to lose the market segment of those who pirate PC games.
If any of those who pirate PC games are reading here: for now all my pillaged goods are working fine on Steam Deck and on Desktop Linux.
So you have to do anything different? Install wine, or special install requirements?
I had an HP Zbook Workstation. With TPM1.x Initially said get ready for W11, then months later meeage: this model fails TPM 2.0 requirement, CPU OK. I used HP firmware tool to upgrade from TPM 1.x to TPM2.0. A recheck with W11 a few months later: TPM OK, CPU no good. Last month the message about the system not being upgradeable to W11 disappeared and replaced with a link: to learn more about W11. Wtf. Do they even know what system requirements they need?
