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-1 points

3 months ago

No, no it doesn’t. Everywhere that has gun control also has social safety nets… everywhere they have gun control and no safety nets, its bad. Brazil and Mexico… please explain those two countries which have very high firearm homicides but the gun laws there basically ban civilians from owning firearms.

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Dasus@lemmy.world

2 points

3 months ago

No, no it doesn’t.

Yes, it does.

Refusing to believe science, asserting your bullshit as more credible than Harvard and Oxford.

Always the same.

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-1 points

3 months ago

My facts are from actual facts. As I asked before, please tell me why Brazil and Mexico has worse gun crime than the USA, but has basically banned civilian ownership?

Your “science” isn’t anything more than emotional bullshit.

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https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/insights-blog/acting-data/gun-violence-united-states-outlier

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Dasus@lemmy.world

1 point

3 months ago

What you’re doing is crying a lot, denying the actual studies which have been done in, among other countries, Brazil.

You’ve never read a single one, because people like you never do. Instead you think your making aa good case by calling Harvard and Oxford studies “emotional bullshit” while thinking the garbage you pull out of your arse are “facts, my facts are real facts”.

You seriously think you’re gonna “debunk” large peer reviewed studies by the world’s most esteemed universities by going “b-b-but w-what about B-Brazil…?!” (It’s called whataboutism, a rather childish propaganda tactic.)

Since the studies are too hard for you to read:

Within the US, gun violence varies widely. Age-adjusted firearm homicide rates range from a high of 14.4 per 100,000 in Washington, DC, to a low of 1.1 per 100,000 in New Hampshire. Washington, DC’s rate is similar to those of Brazil and Jamaica, which rank ninth and tenth globally. New Hampshire’s rate is similar to that of Chile. Even though New Hampshire has the lowest rates of age-adjusted firearm homicides in the US, its rate is still three times greater than the highest rate in Europe – Cyprus, with 0.36 deaths per 100,000.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/america-mass-shooting-gun-violence-statistics-charts

https://epirev.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/1/140.full.pdf+html

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/

You’re never going to admit you’re wrong, no matter how bad it gets in your shithole of a country. Why is that? Wouldn’t it be better to admit how fucked up it is, to start fixing it? Or do you just like living in an unsafe shithole?

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https://www.healthdata.org/news-events/insights-blog/acting-data/gun-violence-united-states-outlier

0 points

3 months ago

What you’re doing is crying a lot, denying the actual studies which have been done in, among other countries, Brazil.

Where do you seem me crying? I’m not the one crying about guns, and screaming “think of the children”…you anti-2a groups are literally emotionally driven and actually do cry a lot about gun rights.

You’ve never read a single one, because people like you never do. Instead you think your making aa good case by calling Harvard and Oxford studies “emotional bullshit” while thinking the garbage you pull out of your arse are “facts, my facts are real facts”.

I’ve read all of these studies, they’re all designed to show that guns magically make people more violent and we should ban them completely. This isn’t news. The facts I use are from statistics from the FBI, statistics don’t lie.

You seriously think you’re gonna “debunk” large peer reviewed studies by the world’s most esteemed universities by going “b-b-but w-what about B-Brazil…?!” (It’s called whataboutism, a rather childish propaganda tactic.)

These studies aren’t actual studies, they’re collections of data that are correlationed to make gun ownership look bad. And I’m not the one that continually brings up other nations that have safety nets and gun control and say “what about this euro nation”…

Since the studies are too hard for you to read:

Within the US, gun violence varies widely. Age-adjusted firearm homicide rates range from a high of 14.4 per 100,000 in Washington, DC, to a low of 1.1 per 100,000 in New Hampshire. Washington, DC’s rate is similar to those of Brazil and Jamaica, which rank ninth and tenth globally. New Hampshire’s rate is similar to that of Chile. Even though New Hampshire has the lowest rates of age-adjusted firearm homicides in the US, its rate is still three times greater than the highest rate in Europe – Cyprus, with 0.36 deaths per 100,000.

Cool, thanks for proving my point. Gun laws in Brazil are some of the strictest in the world, yet they have the same firearm homicide rate as DC does… sounds like the laws banning people from owning firearms aren’t working.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/america-mass-shooting-gun-violence-statistics-charts

https://epirev.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/1/140.full.pdf+html

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/

You’re never going to admit you’re wrong, no matter how bad it gets in your shithole of a country. Why is that? Wouldn’t it be better to admit how fucked up it is, to start fixing it? Or do you just like living in an unsafe shithole?

O… you’re not even from the USA…my shithole country is my country, worry about your own.

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Dasus@lemmy.world

1 point

3 months ago

The facts I use are from statistics from the FBI, statistics don’t lie

How would the FBI have any data on nationally implemented gun control? Perhaps by reading studied from Oxford and Harvard.

What you’re doing again is crying instead of having any science on your side, even your “FBI facts.”

This “argument” is exactly what I meant when I was calling for a gun nut to come show their insanity.

You have a tantrum, deny the science and then say things like “sounds like their policies didn’t work”, when you still refuse to ACTUALLY READ the study and can’t provide anything against it.

Cry cry cry. Zero science. Like always.

Yeah, see I’m from an actual first world country, we have good education, so I understand empathy and how interconnected the global community is. But you don’t even care about your own children getting massacred. How utterly disgusting.

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1 point

3 months ago

How would the FBI have any data on nationally implemented gun control? Perhaps by reading studied from Oxford and Harvard.

ROFL the FBI provides the numbers to the public lol they do not get shit from oxford or Harvard lol fucking hell… I don’t even know why I’m arguing with you. You’re not even from here lol

What you’re doing again is crying instead of having any science on your side, even your “FBI facts.”

Lol

This “argument” is exactly what I meant when I was calling for a gun nut to come show their insanity.

Lol

You have a tantrum, deny the science and then say things like “sounds like their policies didn’t work”, when you still refuse to ACTUALLY READ the study and can’t provide anything against it.

Yea ok mr “the fbi gets it’s numbers from Oxford and Harvard” ROFL

Cry cry cry. Zero science. Like always.

Lol

Yeah, see I’m from an actual first world country, we have good education, so I understand empathy and how interconnected the global community is. But you don’t even care about your own children getting massacred. How utterly disgusting.

O no the emotional bullshit shines. You keep to your side of the pond and I’ll keep to mine.

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