Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich welcomed President-elect Donald Trump’s electoral victory Monday, saying that “the time has come” to extend full Israeli sovereignty over the occupied West Bank.

He made the comment a day after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a recorded statement that he has spoken three times with Trump since the election and that they “see eye to eye on the Iranian threat.

You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments View context
71 points

What is it you were expecting or hoping for? Because this just reads like someone forgot to take their pills. It was always going to be Kamala or Trump. It doesn’t matter if neither one made you happy. If you thought otherwise, you didn’t think it through.

We had a really simple choice between two people. We made it. Unless you voted for Kamala, this is the outcome you allowed to happen.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points
*
Removed by mod
permalink
report
parent
reply
-10 points

It was always going to be Kamala or Trump. It doesn’t matter if neither one made you happy. If you thought otherwise, you didn’t think it through.

Wasn’t it “It was always going to be Biden or Trump” until three months ago?

permalink
report
parent
reply
17 points

It was always Trump vs Democrat. Everyone that’s not a complete moron knew that Trump was always the worst choice for Gaza’s future. Anyone that argued otherwise is worse than the morons that didn’t know.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points
*
Removed by mod
permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

So first it always was Biden, now other choice permitted. Then it was Harris, no other choice permitted. Now it is “Democrat”, which is a pretty broad spectrum.

And that show exactly the failure of the Harris/Biden supporters. Instead of pushing for a viable candidate that doesn’t support the genocide in Gaza, people doubled down on a center right-right pro genocide candidate. And this strategy didn’t just loose the election, it also shows the complicity of everyone who supported that campaign. Who chose a secure election loss with genocide support, over daring to bring a non genocidal candidate to the ballot.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

You wanted to toss out another candidate? Over Gaza, something 90% of America would be somewhere between ambivalent and gleeful if it burned?

Or did you want to wait until the convention, bypass the VP and flip the bird to black and/or women voters while nominating a different compromise candidate that no one actually wanted at the last minute?

Yeah, it was Biden until it wasn’t. And if he’d hadn’t stepped down the choice would’ve been him or Trump. This isn’t a fucking buffet. You vote for the Democrat or you accept the Republican.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

That is just plainy wrong.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/642695/majority-disapprove-israeli-action-gaza.aspx

This is from end of March.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/10/01/slight-uptick-in-americans-wanting-u-s-to-help-diplomatically-resolve-israel-hamas-war/

The DNC did everything they could to demotivate and alienate their base. Everyone who cheered that on instead of demanding proper primaries didn’t just loose the elections, but also showed a moral desolace

permalink
report
parent
reply
-17 points

It was always going to be Kamala or Trump

This sentiment made it Trump

permalink
report
parent
reply
16 points

The lack of votes for Harris did that.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-2 points

The lack of votes for Jill Stein did it.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-7 points
*

And that sentiment is why she was lacking votes. Like come on we all know how elections work and that less votes means you lose. If you don’t want to find out why you got less votes, don’t be mad when you loose again.

Oh they’re mad at this one, guess you decided to learn nothing. See you right back here again in 4 years then.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

What I said there was fact. The idea it wasn’t is wishful thinking.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Kamala was wishful…well i wouldnt call kamala a wish, no one wanted her. Anyway it was wrong to believe she could win.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-4 points

The anti-Israel crowd are basically the MTG and Boeberts of the Democratic party. Right on down to outlandish claims about crisis actors

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points
*

The anti-Israel crowd

“Harris is the better choice in this fucking awful dilemma the US electoral system gives us” is not pro-Israel. It was a pragmatic option to reduce the damage a little, to lead the US down a better road domestically, and to leave the door open to later activism to stop the genocide where there was no viable third voting option.

Please don’t conflate a Harris vote with a pro-Israel stance.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-29 points

Like Harris was going to stop this.

permalink
report
parent
reply
29 points

Maybe not. We knew what direction Trump would take.

permalink
report
parent
reply
24 points

Two options. We chose.

permalink
report
parent
reply
19 points

With the senate and a wide house gap, I think so. Ah dreams

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

harris would have been the better outcome for the palestinian people, if you knew this and chose not to vote then youre more concerned with moral grandstanding than anything else

permalink
report
parent
reply

politics

!politics@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to “Mom! He’s bugging me!” and “I’m not touching you!” Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That’s all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

Community stats

  • 15K

    Monthly active users

  • 11K

    Posts

  • 190K

    Comments