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She also had Taylor Swift, Bernie Sanders, Obama, Mark Cuban, multple military generals endorsing her, among others.

But sure, it was the Cheneys that outweighed everyone else. That’s the problem, not American voters who didn’t think ‘holy shit everyone across the sociopolitical landscape is coming together supporting her, trump is that much of a serious threat’.

Great work👍

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You’re in the headline, btw.

It’s insane to me how Democrats keep appealing to the right, when their historically greatest turnout has been galvanizing their base like with Obama.

And yes, a war criminal’s endorsement is more important to me than a pop star’s. One of them actually works in policy.

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You’re in the headline, btw.

I’m not American.

And most Trump voters/no voters are going to wish they weren’t either in three or so years.

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I’m not American

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then why are you telling Americans that we’re wrong for thinking the DNC ran a shit campaign?? Like, you’re right, we’re in for a FUCKED time starting January 2025, but did you really expect people to turn out on election night out of an existential threat? Does that happen where you live?

Harris didn’t lose because everyone voted for Trump, Harris lost because the Dem’s voter base felt so unheard by their own candidate regarding their issues that they stayed home, exactly as Bernie Sanders said. The numbers and voter stats are all there for people to read. Harris AND Trump got overall less votes than 2020, but Harris lost the Blue Wall from 2020. Hillary at least won the popular vote, Harris and the 2024 DNC don’t even have that.

It doesn’t matter where you are in the world, voter turnout correlates to progressives getting in power. The conservatives always have a core base of ~20-30% of voters that will always show up (no really, look up historical voter numbers in your own country), and the DNC have really tried appealing to these people in the US instead of bringing out their own base!

It’s a flawed strategy because it’s shown over and over again that these core voters will always vote through their conservative party lines.

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I dont think that everyone gives the same weight to those peoples opinions. Some see Obama as a war criminal, mark Cuban is in the billionaire class and is against business regulation, taylor swift is also a billionaire, and Beyonce is a billionaire as well?

Bernie gave the same vote against tyranny stuff the democrats were saying. I dont recall him being excited about Kamala’s policy, was he?

If the republicans are running on change, and the democrats are running on not changing, but most americans want things to change, it shouldnt be shocking which one wins.

The democrats could have offered up a better idea to change the country but they didnt. They tried to scold and patronize people into voting for them instead.

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If the republicans are running on change, and the democrats are running on not changing, but most americans want things to change, it shouldnt be shocking which one wins.

Most Americans are in for a rude awakening if they think the change republicans are proposing are the same change they want. Or maybe they do want wrecked economy, dismantled healthcare, and internment camps for ‘’‘illegals’‘’. Who the fuck knows.

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Yes, it they still don’t want the status quo, so they would not have been happy either way. The point is that the party proposing a change can scoop up votes of those wishing for change, which is most people.

Biden didn’t win on no change. He won on change from trumps presidency. Change wins. Proposals win. Stability is good, but if people don’t feel stability, like with runaway inflation, or a recent global pandemic, or a recent trump presidency, then saying things are stable and good is not a winner. They are not.

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well, hey, they’re all american voters, right, and apparently we’re all too moronic to understand the basic things at stake, so maybe that is what we deserve, right?

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I mean she chose to spend the last weeks essentially campaigning with the cheneys that’s different than just an endorsement when they star in dozens of rallies.

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She also had Taylor Swift, Bernie Sanders, Obama, Mark Cuban, multple military generals endorsing her, among others.

ah yes, taylor swift, noted political figure. surely, that will drive turnout. obama and bernie sanders, yes, great choices, truly, this will save us even when we’re not campaigning on their policies. mark cuban. yes. multiple military generals, very cool.

extrapolate what you actually mean with this train of thought. what do you think the democrats should’ve actually done differently? they’re the ones who’ve lost, what should they have done more? who should they have appealed to? seems like everyone wants to put the emphasis solely on the trump voters and the non-voters, and since the non-voters are non-voters, oh, wowie, look at that, all we have left are trump voters to go after.

shocker. I wonder what the party will head after, with this train of thought? I wonder which direction they’ll go in? surely, they wouldn’t double down, right? surely, they wouldn’t go further after the trump voters, after all the committed registered republican voters that turned out last time switched and
 lost them a percentage point in that category, this go around. from 6% to 5%. we should emphasize the trump voters more, we should go after them more, obviously, because they’re the only ones willing to vote!

extract what you’re talking about, extrapolate. if you just run around up in your feels as a non-american, blaming the wind for blowing, then you’re just gonna end up blasting darpanet even harder.

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For real, all these people blaming democrats for not winning when billionaires were literally buying votes to not be taxed by democrats. Seems like a campaign.

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Well, if anything it proves that Unions work. Unions of billionaire media moguls especially. Many (soft, wealthy) hands coming together, to push in collectively towards a common goal of eliminating the National Labor Relations Board, the EPA, the SEC, and the IRS
 it’s kind of beautiful, in its way. (/s)

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