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Bernie Sanders criticizes the Democratic Party for neglecting the working class, leading to their recent election losses.

He highlights issues like economic inequality, job displacement, healthcare costs, and foreign policy as key concerns for the American people.

Sanders questions whether the Democratic leadership will address these issues or remain beholden to big money interests.

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51 points

He’s partially right.

Unfortunately, I think the bigger issue is that a majority of Americans are fascists or indifferent to fascism.

“But are there not many fascists in your country?"

"There are many who do not know they are fascists but will find it out when the times comes.”

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majority of Americans are fascists or indifferent to fascism.

I’m not convinced of that at all. Here’s what I see:

A large portion of ignorant uneducated and easily manipulatable people who don’t even know what fascism is.

  • Large groups of religious people who focus on voting red because Christianity, their churches, pastors, and religious groups, and the abortion issue.

  • Actual bigots. There’s a lot of them and they like the racism, anti gay, nationalism, deportation stuff. Want women subjugated.

  • Bullies, tough guys, “alpha male”, and the “get money” crowd. There’s a lot here too, and many in poor young black and Hispanic groups in addition to a lot of white males. Not necessarily bigots, but generally want women subjugated whether they know it or not (sex objects).

  • The large group of just vote red without thinking because it’s what family and friend circles do and always have.

The above I think don’t understand fascism at all. Not educated or informed enough.

Edit: I would say to be “indifferent to fascism” you have to actually understand what it is, and I don’t think much of the maga crowd does. My opinion/speculation.

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Yeah I also don’t agree. You honestly have to discard a lot of public information to force yourself into this level of ignorance. For nine years he’s told us he’s a proud piece of shit. If they didn’t listen for that long that’s on them.

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Is it really so hard to believe that’s exactly how millions upon millions of people go about living their lives?

Yes, that does seem completely insane to people like you and me who don’t tolerate that level of willful ignorance in ourselves, but to someone else that’s all just noise that they tune out.

Ever heard the phrase, “Hell is other people“? I’m slowly starting to believe this existence is a punishment.

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Completely disagree, a person doesn’t have to understand what fascism is to be a fascist or indifferent to fascism, any more than they need to be an expert on dogs to not kick or oppose kicking one.

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Actually I changed my mind and disagree with my other comment LOL.

I still find it hard to call an extremely ignorant uneducated person a fascist, who is being manipulated by an actual fascist leader. They’re just potentially being manipulated. The dumber they are, the easier to manipulate.

Some or even many of these people conceivably would change their stances and choices if provided with lots of education. Some.

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Kindly, I disagree again lol.

Indifferent:

Having no particular interest or concern; apathetic

I still argue you need to understand it to be indifferent about it specifically. However, I do believe these people are indifferent to having a desire to learn what fascism actually is and actual historical contexts.

But we can agree to disagree 😀

Edit: oops “to be a fascist” yes I’ll agree with you on that one sorry. They can be fascists without actually knowing that they are and how to define it.

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The abortion issue is part of fascism. It creates a lower unequal class out of women.

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I’d say most of the maga base don’t know this though. Complete ignorance. Just “libs kill babies” is their thought process.

I have a hard time thinking that someone who is dumb and manipulatable by a fascist, is actually a fascist themselves. They’re just dumb and easy to manipulate.

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Did you completely miss this:

"There are many who do not know they are fascists but will find it out when the times comes.”

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