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I’m convinced that Biden would have won.

I personally believe that this is not Biden’s or Kamala’s fault. It’s the old-school Democrat establishment’s fault. They did Bernie dirty in 2016. And then they did the same to Biden in these elections. Lichtman predicted a Biden win, bad debate performance and all, and the dems fucked it up.

To be transparent, I still believed Lichtman when he said Harris would win. I will never believe in his stuff again, unless he adds new keys or something.

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I personally believe that this is not Biden’s or Kamala’s fault. It’s the old-school Democrat establishment’s fault. They did Bernie dirty in 2016. And then they did the same to Biden in these elections.

Yes. Every time, even in 2020 when the mood of the country was very different, they are afraid to run anything other than center-right candidates because they “aren’t electable”. Guess what - your corporatist center-right candidates are consistently priming people to receive the protectionist messages from the fascists, Maybe fucking try something different some time, fucking DNC!

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OK, the next question is: How do we convey this to liberals who think we want the dems to lose?

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In the words of my boomer mother, “Things aren’t going to get better until the boomers die off.”

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I think y’all just need to come to terms that America is further right than the Democrat party, and the Democratic party moving left is not going to help them.

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the Democratic party moving left is not going to help them.

How would we know that? They’ve never tried.

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Huh? Obama won by getting leftist votes so that clearly isn’t true.

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