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Hi, this sentiment from non-americans pisses me off and itā€™s okay, but I feel itā€™s important to explain why so Iā€™m copying another comment I made today.

Goodness knows some of us are trying our best. I mean keep in mind our country is a democracy in name but systemically props up white supremacists in excess of the real popular opinion. And a media disinformation machine keeps the working class divided against itself, with open support from the wealthiest and owners of the most popular social media platforms. Social media platforms that, letā€™s be honest, are super recent inventions we are not yet capable of engaging with safely. It makes it an uphill battle to try to reach out to people whose necks arenā€™t on the line. And the responsibility to do so falls upon the disenfranchised themselves, who are increasingly saddled with economic and health burdens that might just kill us someday.

I get the potshots at Americans, but frankly I donā€™t plan on taking the blame if this goes tits up - many of us did a hell of a lot more than vote to resist fascism. Nothing happened here that isnā€™t happening elsewhere. And Iā€™ll fight the notion that citizens at large are the problem. Itā€™s a cynical outlook that serves to individualize the responsibility for a systematic disaster. Our country was built to make this possible after all. And I sure as hell know I donā€™t plan on giving up. Kind of morbidly curious about how much of an incompetent clusterfuck Project 2025ā€™s implementation will be.

Victory or no, fascists are paper tigers and I plan on sticking around to remind them of that fact however I can.

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Youā€™re right. The sentiment more comes from the power the USA weilds globally vs the massive responsibility the population donā€™t seem to realise they have. If anything, the dumb motherfuckers will be the countries that keep allowing the USA to have this power while clearly the population - and by extension the new president - donā€™t take this responsibility seriously.

Iā€™m lucky. I donā€™t live in Palestine or Ukraine, both of which are all but guaranteed to be fed to the wolves. Itā€™s heartbreaking to watch the complacency of a population who think the price of eggs is worth more than thousands of peopleā€™s lives. But here we areā€¦ and weā€™re angry.

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Yeah with such a horrendous outcome, blame starts flying (itā€™s the republicansā€™ fault one billion percent more than anybody elseā€™s, btw) and sometimes in moments of understandable fury people start saying shit. There are some people who this makes sense to say at, and some who it doesnā€™t, and theyā€™re both Americans.

If the person saying it was born in a different country and did all the right things, theyā€™d be saying this at themselves. For doing the right thing.

Whatever, precise wording and being super pissed off donā€™t go together. The sentiment that this is all super fucked up is right on the money.

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1 point

Democrats handed this election to Trump, hold them accountable

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There are always fighters like you which canā€™t be blamed. Nevertheless, most of the American voters are frankly deranged. As a Mexican who has been in the rural areas of the USA, it really fits.

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Victory or no, fascists are paper tigers and I plan on sticking around to remind them of that fact however I can.

See, this is the issue.

It used to be this way. That until theyā€™re actually in power (and I mean have removed the democractic process that could remove them from power again, too), fascists pose big but thereā€™s no bite behind the bark.

But Jan 6 and Trumpā€™s general antics being excused by his cronies in the SC have clearly shown that this is changing. People are emboldened by the fascist rise in all western countries, on top of the generally aggressive atmosphere worldwide as the older generations, unable to face their own misgivings and the shit they caused to pile up, would rather vote for fascism and ā€œblaming Themā„¢ļøā€ than accept that maybe itā€™s high time we accept some really rough times to turn the ship around.
Fully knowing that none of them will live long enough to actually suffer the outcome of their actions.

Even my dad started voting AfD. His reason being ā€œItā€™s time something changes!ā€. Heā€™s just unhappy with the status quo, even if you fully tell him that he, personally, is among those suffering under the AfD and theyā€™re open about wanting to make things worse for him. Itā€™s impossible to reason with these people, as them wanting to be reasoned with would mean theyā€™d have to accept that between climate change and the secondary monumental tasks of trying to handle that which are all inherently global super-issues, too, their generation only had it good in their days because they were living on credit.
But does he truly care? No of course not. Heā€™s old. He can be contrarian and vote ā€œagainst the establishmentā€, and that this fucks everything up more or less permanently isnā€™t a problem for him since heā€™ll be long dead by the time the issues that could have been prevented truly come into force. Much as weā€™re already seeing some issues such as curtailed bodily autonomy for women, increase in violent climes, and of course climate disasters.

Things have changed. People fully do shit now simply because their age and general position in society shields them from the outcome, and they just want to be ā€œagainstā€. And they can openly flaunt this, so crime etc is on the rise. Big time.

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42 points

Fascists are paper tigersā€¦ bold statement. Especially if those paper tigers have access to the biggest military budget on the planet and are backed by an out-of-control police force.

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18 points

Keep calm and carry on, mate. We here in Britain finally managed to get rid of the blonde fella who was wrecking our country, you can also do it. The new ones may not be much of an improvement, but I know one thing for sure - a decent citizen of any nation should never accept as their leader such a corrupted and crooked in so many ways person.

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We traded an orange man for a white man and even that seemed to enrage the conservatives, a black woman? No chance. Proud to be an American here šŸ™„

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Yeah, but still. How, how could anyone vote for this ekstra speshial man? And, more importantly, how can someone like me stay sane knowing that such morally corrupt candidates are winning votes, and not only in the US?

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Well said. Thank you.

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