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It may be my ignorance, but the history of the USA i know starts with the massacre of indigenous people, then goes to the massacre of black people, then the massacre of mexicans, the massacre of communists, then the massacre of vietnamese ppl, then iraqs and afhgans, and so on. Where is the part that inspires the idea that the USA has such great values?

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But they were founded on the idea of the liberty of men… as long as they are white, protestant, male land-owners…

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…which was remarkably liberal for its time.

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Not really that liberal, compared to what the people they colonized were doing, before the europeans arrived.

Edit: Here’s some notes on that claim

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You left out a bit. We also fought the British, and the Confederacy, and the Spanish, and the Kaiser, and the Nazis, and Imperial Japan.

America’s history is complicated, and full of atrocities, like the history of nearly every major nation.

The values he’s referring to in the comic are the core principles espoused in the founding documents. The idea of one nation with liberty and justice for all. At no point in history have those ideas been fully realized, but striving to meet those ideals is what America means to the Captain, not some borders on a map or colors on a flag.

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