Summary: Author Michael Wolff alleges that Jeffrey Epstein showed him photos of Donald Trump with topless young women at Epstein’s Palm Beach home. Trump’s campaign has denied the claims, calling Wolff a “disgraced” writer. Wolff also expressed skepticism about Epstein’s death, suggesting it was implausible but also questioning the possibility of a cover-up.
Not that I support the guy at all, but you lot really need to stop saying “this is definite” and “it is fact” every time there’s an allegation made about something you don’t like. Not just Trump; anything. Unless you are one, y’all need to save that kind of dumb shit for dumb people, even if you like what you’re hearing.
Take Trump out of it for a second. This is literally a scenario of…
"A guy says a dead guy did a thing that makes another guy look bad, right before a big event involving that other guy "
Could be true. Could be not true. It’s hardly the kind of information that should be landing a half-competent mind onto a decision.
Duur let’s remove the statement from the context to prove I am not afraid to use logic to defend a pedophile. You do understand how fucking tone death this is.
You didn’t seem to understand that workout proof we can’t accuse trump, even tho he is a horrible piece of shit that deserves to rot in jail. As much as I’d love to see him get arrested and imprisoned, we cannot simply take someone’s word that someone else did those horrible things, otherwise trump would have already made all of his enemies go to jail with his stupid bullshit accusations. I also think that trump very very likely did those things, but for the justice system we need proof, and someone saying that someone else did something isn’t proof, it’s hearsay and not taken as evidence by law
Oh sure its the law, logic, or whatever fucked up reason you have in your head. I just see a pedophile defender. Pick a different hill unless, you know, birds of a feather…
Well, I’ll just add that even if this is true it will sway nobody.
Trump is a rapist caught on tape bragging about how easy it is to assault women. Very few Trump supporters are unaware of this fact and yet that are still Trump supporters.
That he’s assaulted women simply isn’t newsworthy for his fascist followers. He’s hurting the right people and that’s all that matters to them.
Sadly, about the only thing he could do to lose support would be to insult his followers or the USA. They’ll forgive him for pretty much anything else, including rape and murder.
Take Trump out of it for a second
But then it becomes a completely different scenario.
Trump has repeatedly admitted to molesting women, he’s bragged about forcing his way into women’s locker rooms, he joked openly and without judgement of epstein’s love of kids, he has scores of sexual assault allegations, he has enough money and clout to cover up his rapes and he’s been convicted of illegally covering up legal but embarrassing sexual encounters.
Trump has definitely molested children, it is a fact. It’s literally beyond a shadow of a doubt.
What you’re after is news pieces that confirm your position. Dangerous.
then it becomes a completely different scenario.
No. No it does not.
At the end of the day…
A guy is saying a dead guy did a thing that makes another guy look bad, right before a big event involving that other guy.
Literally, this is “Trust me, bro.”
Be it Trump, Elmo, or a box of Skittles, this preface does not change. Acknowledge that first, then you can go start conversations about Trump molestations as much as you like.
Don’t be like a red hatter and get caught in echo chambers.
that affirm your position.
I’m looking for news that affirms reality. Trump’s public record words and actions already left no doubt that he’s molested children. This writer’s credible but unsourced account is just to remind people that trump has molested children, something that most people realize from trump’s words, actions, associates attitude.
When something looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, hangs out with ducks, eats bread at the park, and admits in public and private to being a duck - it’s unreasonable to argue that we can’t assume it’s a duck.
“A guy said some dead guy did something he is known for doing, like a lot” has some measure of credibility with the common person on the street.
You must be one of the special ones.
That’s just confirmation bias. You assume it’s true because it makes sense given other things you know.
If I make up a fact that you are a technology enthusiast, people can assume it’s true, you are using Lemmy, it makes sense. And it might be true, but it doesn’t change the fact I completely made it up.
Oh wow the passive aggressiveness is palpable. I bet you are the life of the party!
