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Democrats have taken the stance that it’s absolutely UNTHINKABLE that they could possibly not support a genocide, instead full bore opting that the other side’s genocide support is somehow worse. Man, fuck these people so hard.

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Democrats have taken the stance that it’s absolutely UNTHINKABLE that they could possibly not support a genocide

“It’s just what happens!!!”

I’m ready for the Dems to roll over when abortion is banned and the numbers of women dying in childbirth skyrocket. “The voters have decided. This is just what happens!” Instead they will shift the Overton window to “women should be jailed for 5 years rather than 10 when they have a miscarriage which looks like an abortion”. I hope this statement is a joke, and not actually a prediction.

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Your hypothetical situation regarding abortion is happening as we speak, and the democrats are fighting it. I’m not sure where you’ve been for the last year.

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and the democrats are fighting it

Yes, and I worry that they will keep fighting it from a further and further rightwards position, meaning rights are eroded while they position themselves.

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In fact it’s one of the other major reasons why we need to vote democrat. RvW was overturned because SCOTUS is stacked with republicans. You want to prevent shit like that happening again, you need to vote so we can rebalance the courts.

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Recent post around here said “democrats will shift to the right if they lose”. Yes that overton window will be “only get 1 year prison if they accuse the father of rape” shift.

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Like it or not, a significant portion of the country is in favor of supporting Israel, and so they have to walk the line of supporting Israel without supporting genocide, because if they don’t they also lose.

Republicans can campaign on being pro-genocide, give weapons to Israel on the condition they use them with less discretion, and make a campaign promise to deny asylum to any refugees and they don’t lose a vote.
Democrats have to support Israel and Palestine, which is nearly impossible to do without a degree of “please don’t use this gun wrong like you have every other time”.

If you actually don’t see how a Republican administration would be vastly worse for Palestinians, I don’t know what to tell you.

https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/majority-in-u-s-say-israel-has-valid-reasons-for-fighting-fewer-say-the-same-about-hamas/

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Like it or not, a significant portion of the country is in favor of supporting Israel,

Straight up not true to an extent that electorally matters. The only people who would drop Harris for supporting Palestine are the republican voters she’s needlessly trying to court. Meanwhile at this rate she’s losing/already lost Michigan and at least one other swing state with a significant Muslim population (there are a few of them). Her neglect of her voter base is what will do her in.

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Do you have any sources to back up your claims?

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Got any data for that claim, or just asserting?

https://globalaffairs.org/research/public-opinion-survey/americans-see-united-states-playing-positive-role-middle-east

It’s why the Harris campaign is consistently trying to thread the needle and support Israel while not supporting the genocide.

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