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45 points

I don’t get the ai hate sentiment. In fact I want ai to be so good that it steals all our jobs. Every single “worker” on the planet. The only job I don’t think they can steal is that of middle management because I don’t think we have digitized data on how to suck your own dick. After everybody is jobless, then we would be free. We won’t need the rich. They can be made into a fine broth.

Sarcasm aside, I really believe we should automate all menial jobs, crunch more data and make this world a better place, not steal creative content made by humans and make second rate copies.

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8 points

I don’t get the ai hate sentiment.

I don’t get what’s not to get. AI is a heap of bullshit that’s piled on top of a decade of cryptobros.

it’s not even impressive enough to make a positive world impact in the 2-3 years it’s been publicly available.

shit is going to crash and burn like web3.

I’ve seen people put full on contracts that are behind NDAs through a public content trained AI.

I’ve seen developers use cuck-pilot for a year and “never” code again… until the PR is sent back over and over and over again and they have to rewrite it.

I’ve seen the AI news about new chemicals, new science, new _fill-in-the-blank and it all be PR bullshit.

so yeah, I don’t believe AI is our savior. can it make some convincing porn? sure. can it do my taxes? probably not.

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7 points

If I just hand wave all the good things and call them bullshit, AI is nothing more than bad things!

  • Lemmy
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1 point

If I just hand wave all the bad things and call them amazing, AI is everything but the bad things!

  • cryptobros AI evangelists
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2 points

Current “AI’s” (LLMs) are only useful for art and non-fact based text. The two things people particularly do not need computers to do for them.

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1 point

If AI image generation is so bad why we have so many etsy and patreon artists complaining about it?

If no one would use it because it is so bad why would anyone care that it is trained on their products?

Do you know this joke about MAGA and the Schrodinger’s immigrant? They somehow believe that immigrants are both stealing people jobs and lazy and living on wellfare.

AntiAI bros are somehow similar. AI is at the same time stealing artists jobs and completely useless incapable of producing nothing that people would want.

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7 points

it’s not even impressive enough to make a positive world impact in the 2-3 years it’s been publicly available.

It literally just won people two Nobel prizes

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0 points

How does that help the rest of us?

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-2 points

Hooray for them. \s

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21 points

You are ignoring ALL of the of the positive applications of AI from several decades of development, and only focusing on the negative aspects of generative AI.

Here is a non-exhaustive list of some applications:

  • In healthcare as a tool for earlier detection and prevention of certain diseases
  • For anomaly detection in intrusion detection system, protecting web servers
  • Disaster relief for identifying the affected areas and aiding in planning the rescue effort
  • Fall detection in e.g. phones and smartwatches that can alert medical services, especially useful for the elderly.
  • Various forecasting applications that can help plan e.g. production to reduce waste. Etc…

There have even been a lot of good applications of generative AI, e.g. in production, especially for construction, where a generative AI can the functionally same product but with less material, while still maintaining the strength. This reduces cost of manufacturing, and also the environmental impact due to the reduced material usage.

Does AI have its problems? Sure. Is generative AI being misused and abused? Definitely. But just because some applications are useless it doesn’t mean that the whole field is.

A hammer can be used to murder someone, that does not mean that all hammers are murder weapons.

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-8 points

give me at least two peer reviewed articles that AI has had a measurably positive impact on society over the last 24 months.

shouldn’t be too hard for AI to come up with that, right?

if you can do that then I’ll admit that AI has potential to become more than a crypto scam.

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Imaginary and unproven cases without any apparent “intelligence”.

Seriously… Fall detection? It’s like 3 lines of code… Disaster relief? Show me any actual evidence of “AI” being used…

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13 points

When I hear “AI”, I think of that thing that proofreads my emails and writes boilerplate code. Just a useful tool among a long list of others. Why would I spend emotional effort hating it? I think people who “hate” AI are just as annoying as the people pushing it as the solution to all our problems.

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-1 points

when I get an email written by AI, it means the person who sent it doesn’t deem me worth their time to respond to me themselves.

I get a lot of email that I have to read for work. It used to be about 30 a day that I had to respond to. now that people are using AI, it’s at or over 100 a day.

I provide technical consulting and give accurate feedback based on my knowledge and experience on the product I have built over the last decade and a half.

if nobody is reading my email why does it matter if I’m accurate? if generative AI is training on my knowledge and experience where does that leave me in 5 years?

business is built on trust, AI circumvents that trust by replacing the nuances between partners that grow that trust.

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I don’t think anybody hates spell checkers if that’s what you consider “AI”.

It’s more about the grifters pushing this phony “intelligence” as the savior/destroyer of humanity.

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24 points

I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention to everything that’s happened since the industrial revolution but that’s not how it’s going to work

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5 points

I would love AI. Still waiting for it. Probably 50 years away (if human society lasts that long).

What I hate is the term being yet another scientific term to get stolen and watered down by brainless capitalists so they can scam money out of other brainless capitalists.

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What I hate is the term being yet another scientific term to get stolen and watered down created by brainless capitalists researchers and scientists so they can scam money out of describe ideas to other brainless capitalists researchers and scientists.

The term AI as we use it today has been in use in the field of computer science for more than 50 years

The term that you describe as AI is what researchers in the field have called AGI for more than a decade.

The only place where AI is used to mean a artificial intelligence on the same level of humans is in fucking science fiction.

Is it hard to comprehend that when people say AI on the topic of something made by computer scientists they refer to the thing computer scientists call AI?

Do you go on gaming conversations and say: “Um… Akshually… it’s not AI… it’s just a behaviour heuristics 🤓”

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2 points

“Brainless capitalists” weren’t invented in 2019.

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10 points

Had me in the first half, not gonna lie

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45 points

The problem with AI isn’t the tech itself. It’s what capitalism is doing with it. Alongside what you say, using AI to achieve fully automated luxury gay space communism would be wonderful.

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17 points

Maybe problem is, you know, capitalism?

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9 points

As always!

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1 point

For me, it’s because AI is referring to a LLM, which is not AI. Also, these LLMs use a crap load of energy to do things that we can currently do ourselves for much less energy.

But actual AI? Yes, please!

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they will automate all menial jobs, fire %90 of the workers and ask remaining %10 to oversee the AI automated tasks while also doing all other tasks which can not be automated. all so that shareholders can add some more billions on top of their existing stack of billions.

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19 points

The problem is that it will be the rich that are the owners of the AI that stole your job so suddenly we peasants are no longer needed. We won’t be free, we will be broth.

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5 points

Well you see 100 people won’t be able to make soup of trillions. But you know what we a trillion people can do? Run the guillotine for a 100 times

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4 points

Well you see 100 people won’t be able to make soup of trillions.

You should check out the climate catastrophe sometime.

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11 points

Then you have a choice.

Option 1. Halt scientific and technological progress and be robbed anyway because if capitalists do not get more money out of tech they are getting it out of making you work more hours for less money.

Option 2. End capitalism.

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Option 3. Get a job as part of the 5% of the population still employed in serving the various security apparatuses protecting the rich fucks – you could be a soldier, cop, or government official.

Better to be part of the boot than be the poor fuckers getting stepped on, right? You can sleep easily knowing you have it slightly better than the other 95% of the underclass.

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6 points

I vote option 2

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2 points

Sure, Eli Whitney.

How about the machines automate the complicated jobs to make as many menial jobs for me as possible? Computers these days are all lazy. They could optimize scheduling so the neighbors and I all get time together and time apart for a hundred hours of kicking dirt down at the office each year, instead they hang around doing vapes and abstract paintings of hands.

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