Ideology gap increase between young men and women in various countries.(lemmy.ml)

Bullshit. Most men suffer under toxic patriarchy as well. I absolutely love that this shit is finally getting pulled into the spotlight. I have not suffered a single iota of harm from anything “woke” and I would argue that no honest man has either.

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🇦🇺𝕄𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕔𝕕𝕚𝕝𝕖@lemm.ee

-21 points

3 months ago

How do men suffer under patriarchy? Do u really want to be the one blaming 75% of suicides on men not being allowed to beat their wives? Sounds like ur calling all cis men evil bad people. I wonder what such a narrative would do to a young man trying to develop a sence of self, identity, and personal ideology?

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Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone

17 points

3 months ago

How do men suffer under patriarchy?

Queer and gender nonconforming men get an immense amount of abuse due to patriarchy. Even gender conforming straight boys and men do if they show sensitivity in any real capacity. The abuse of boys and young men for the sake of making them “man up” is hardly an unusual in many areas.

Do u really want to be the one blaming 75% of suicides on men not being allowed to beat their wives?

What? This has nothing to do with the comment you replied to.

Sounds like ur calling all cis men evil bad people.

No, this is a ridiculous conclusion you drew from someone saying patriarchy hurts everyone.

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Cypher@lemmy.world

23 points

3 months ago

Do u really want to be the one blaming 75% of suicides on men not being allowed to beat their wives?

This is so back asswards it is genuinely astounding.

Men are 75% of suicides under patriarchy.

Damn I wonder how someone could conclude that patriarchy hurts the majority of men.

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-8 points

3 months ago

Men are 75% of suicides under patriarchy.

Male suicide is getting worse every year the patriarchy is getting destroyed more every year, im simply pointing out the correlation is backward sof what u claim.

Damn I wonder how someone could conclude that patriarchy hurts the majority of men.

The data correlates exactly the wrong way for this to be true.

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Cypher@lemmy.world

14 points

3 months ago

Correlation does not equal causation.

I would point to the economic disparity that is widening in virtually every advanced economy as a much more relevant driver of male suicide.

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🇦🇺𝕄𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕔𝕕𝕚𝕝𝕖@lemm.ee

-7 points

3 months ago

Correlation does not equal causation.

Exactly but causation does not come without correlation. Causation is a subset of correlation.

I would point to the economic disparity that is widening in virtually every advanced economy as a much more relevant driver of male suicide.

Economic disparity should be effecting the genders equally unless you are saying women are doing better financially.

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TexasDrunk@lemmy.world

19 points

3 months ago

Yep. Toxic masculinity wants us to work ourselves to death without complaining to anyone. So our mental health is in the fucking toilet. If you’re not working enough, you’re not providing and you’re not a real man. If you do work enough but show any emotion that’s not a “manly” emotion (anything involving tears outside of a funeral or during Old Yeller or anything that’s too excited) then you’re not a real man.

I could write a whole dissertation on how young men get sucked into that whole toxic ideology due to the promises of being able to have a family and a house. And it’s all a fucking lie.

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11 points

3 months ago

Dishonest men still get to vote though

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