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It’s not genocide, it’s ethnic cleansing/stealing land. If all the Palestinians left for some place else, Israel would not pursue them to exterminate them, they’d just steal their land. It’s Palestinian land that Israel is stealing. The Palestinians are just in the way.

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You just described a genocide, like one of the plain text definitions of a genocide. Mass murdering a group of people to steal their land.

Doesn’t matter that you’ve made up a hypothetical fantasy scenario where they aren’t caged in cornered, but have free movement, it’s still a genocide.

Oh, and they aren’t free to leave, they are caged and cornered.

So you’re wrong, and you’re wrong again.

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The Palestinians are not an ethnic group. They are people who live in Palestine, and are from many ethnicities and religious professions. They are being murdered because of where they live, not technically because of their ethnicity. If they all left of their own accord, Israel would not pursue them to murder them. Israel is murdering them to steal their land. Hence not genocide.

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Did you really just say that if the indigenous inhabitants simply left their homes and wandered into the desert, then Israel wouldn’t be forced to commit a genocide?

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By what definition

Wiki

Genocide is violence that targets individuals because of their membership of a group and aims at the destruction of a people.[a][2]

Dictionary

the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

Cambridge dictionary

genocide noun [ C or U ] UK /ˈdʒen.ə.saɪd/ US /ˈdʒen.ə.saɪd/ Add to word list the crime of intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methods:

So by what definition do you add ‘land’.

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Cases of genocide brought before the ICJ aren’t based on Merriam-Webster, or the Cambridge Dictionary…

They use ratified international agreements, such as the CPPCG

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By what rationale do you group people who live in Palestine together as a particular group- because they aren’t. Israel wants Gaza, and they want everyone there who’s not an Israeli gone. Either chased out or murdered. It’s not like the extermination of certain Native peoples carried out by the US government in the 1800’s where they were obliterated for what they were.

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With all the good will in the world, my friend, you need to look up the definitions of genocide. Pursuing a population to exterminate then is NOT a prerequisite for genocide.

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what’s the point of this argument even if you’re right? fuck what Israel is actually doing, I don’t care what it’s called. Fuck them

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Lmfao THAT’S GENOCIDE DOPEY

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