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People will say “what about Gaza?” when it comes to Kamala. It blows my fucking mind that they think Trump or some fake third party vote will do anything.

Trump cares about Trump and how much you will suck him off.

This election is between two selections. Trump and Harris…Full Stop!

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Most of those people are either secret Trump supporters, have foreign interests, or are so brainwashed that arguing with them is pointless. They only use Gaza as a tool, if they actually cared they’d vote for the only candidate who can be swayed on the issue

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Actually I just think genocide is bad and thats really the whole thought process, it’s not very nuanced.

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33 points

Refusing to discuss nuance is the problem

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25 points

So you’re stupid. Got it.

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14 points

Allowing a second term for the guy who moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem and gave Netanyahu handies under the table is better for the Palestinians?

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Then you will want to vote for Kamala, and if she wins, you should protest and talk endlessly about how she should enact change.

If Trump wins, protests will be pointless in this area. He will continue to fully endorse the genocide, and send massive amounts of weapons to help them. You think right now is bad… Trump will start WW3 without blinking.

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3 points

You’re an incredibly simple person. That’s… that’s pretty sad.

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26 points

Let’s take this through to worse case for both sides.

Harris doesn’t intervene in a foreign conflict.

Trump becomes Emperor of USA (would that even be their name), women are slaves, anyone not white and male is threatened with violence, democracy dies, USA become an authoritarian, racist, violent oligarchy, the world burns through climate change and conflict… and Trump doesn’t intervene in the same conflict.

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…and Trump doesn’t intervene in the same conflict.

Or intervenes more… to help the genocide proceed faster.

BTW, he’d also hand Ukraine to Russia so that’s another genocide right there.

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13 points

Telling racist lies that Haitian people are eating pet cats is a Blood Libel prelude to domestic pogroms.

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4 points

And Taiwan to China. What will happen with Phillipines?

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Trump will definitely intervene and bomb the shit out of Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran. This is the guy who took the most insane extreme option and killed that Iranian general.

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I’m not sure how “tens of billions of dollars of military aid” counts as not intervening in a foreign conflict.

It is a bit galling to be told endlessly that we must shut up and choose when the choice is “genocide or more genocide”, even when the reason Harris is on the top of the ballot at all is as a result of speaking up about the issues with Biden. I’m not all that comfortable merely accepting that, to escape the chopping block myself, I must remain silent about my family members. I’m sorry that Harris is so tied to Israel’s expansionist agenda that my inability to stomach rampant slaughter is threatening her and the Democratic party’s chances against Trump and the Republican party, but I can’t let some tens of thousands of killing go.

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He also will let Israel go 10x harder on Gaza. Made up issue by Russian troll farms

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For anyone thinking of refusing to vote for Harris over Gaza: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan

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It’s the same playbook every time:

https://theconversation.com/i-investigated-millions-of-tweets-from-the-kremlins-troll-factory-and-discovered-classic-propaganda-techniques-reimagined-for-the-social-media-age-237712

It’s a propaganda technique using repetition to foster familiarity, to simulate that there is a large-ish part of the population that thinks that way.

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Well said.

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