Critics say the US rushed to evacuate its citizens in Israel last year. For Lebanon, the response has been much slower.

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It won’t stop until either Israel is disarmed or there is a complete change of people in charge of Israel and criminals like Netanyahu, his entire government and IDF commanders are sent to prison.

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Disarming Israel will make the war stop just like how disarming Ukraine would make that war stop as well.

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Ukraine is not the aggressor

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You meant Russia and yeah, both Israel and Russia should be disarmed.

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No, I meant Ukraine. If Russia was disarmed, Ukraine and probably every other nation as well would just leave them alone. If Israel was disarmed, its enemies would murder every single jew in there.

That’s why comparison to Ukraine is more accurate.

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That latter option won’t cause much change. Israel is, as a state and as a people, ideologically poisoned. They need something on the level of the denazification of Germany before you can hope for any change.

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I am not disagreeing with you but you need to start somewhere. Sending Netanyahu, his government and senior IDF officers to prison for war crimes would send shock waves and could be a trigger of wider changes.

Ideally, I would like to see Northern Ireland power sharing solution in Palestine/Israel where each office is shared equally between Israelis and Palestinians. That however in my view can only follow after justice for the victims is achieved first and the perpetrators are in prison.

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Honestly, I don’t think justice for Palestinians is likely. As I see it, peace is inevitable but moderately far at the pace we’re going, but justice would require a perceived violation of Israel’s integrity that Palestinians will never have the bargaining power to demand. It’d be throwing a wrench into a peace process that will likely be reluctant and fragile already. Justice would be nice to have as an addon, but Palestinians will likely choose to take the fastest route towards human rights, which will be a two-state solution where Palestinians make some concessions but gain a state with real sovereignty. If something drastically changes justice might become possible, but in my thinking it’ll be Palestinians, not Israelis, making concessions to make peace possible a la the Oslo Accords.

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… or all of Radical Islam admits the cost is too high and gives up their pointless hate.

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It’s not radical to stand up for oppression and genocide. It’s not pointless to hate a group of people who stolen everything from you. The fact that you would label it as such just goes to show how little you actually value human lives and their rights.

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Pointless hate? These people are subject to Israeli Apartheid and acts of ethnic cleansing. Daily. What part of fighting that is pointless?

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Don’t tread on me for me, but not for thee

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Don’t you think that feelings of victims hating the perpetrators are completely justified?

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That’s not the point. Forgiveness to avoid more tragedy is.

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Only Nazi’s think hating genocide is pointless.

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It is the Sith that speak in absolutes.

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