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-48 points

Yeah because Poland was launching missiles on German villages behind the border for a full year. Duh.

People hating IL so much that they just leave entire parts of the conflict out and then feel good about “doing the eight thing” are a part of the problem.

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52 points

I agree completely that Hezbollah makes up a huge problem, and after their involvement in Syria there’s not a hint of legitimacy left in the organization if there ever was any.

But one would do well that to remember their origins: They are what’s left of the resistance from the last time Israel invaded Lebanon. So that’s what a great fucking success that was.

And Hezbollah are not Lebanon. They control territory, and they need to be fought, but this in not how one fights terrorist organizations. This is how you create terrorist organizations. Which is exactly what Israel did the last time they invaded.

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2 points

but that’s the point, it keeps their surrounding neighbors destabilized

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Uh… Israel was and still is committing genocide. And before that it was Apartheid and slower genocide. Setting aside the idea of refugees and how Lebanon is next after Gaza and the West Bank, every country in the world has a duty under international law to stop genocide and other crimes against humanity. The fact that Israel is committing genocide is, in and of itself, is a casus belli. This is the exact same thing the Allies get praised for in WWII. Also you’re phrasing it like Israel wasn’t responding each of these rockets with a lot more rockets, but even if we ignore all that: Israel made the conscious decision to escalate the conflict with Hezbollah with the pager attack and subsequent airstrikes.

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And the paper attacks were targeted mostly at civilians and Healthcare workers. Who use those things the most.

Also that ploy would have taken YEARS to prepare for, given the logistics involved in making the shell companies and finding out how to make sure the bulk of those devices ended up in Lebanon. Meaning nothing that happened in October 2023 had anything to do with that ploy.

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The fact that Israel is committing genocide is, in and of itself, is a casus belli. This is the exact same thing the Allies get praised for in WWII.

No, unfortunately not really. The extent of the Holocaust was not uncovered until the Allies moved into Germany and took the concentration camps. Britain was at war due to their guarantee of Polish sovereignty, the US was at war due to Pearl Harbor, and Germany declaring war on them a few days later. Nobody went into WW2 to stop a genocide. China and the USSR were at war due to being invaded.

While some credit is given to stopping the Holocaust, certainly, that was largely a side effect of simply winning WW2.

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While some credit is given to stopping the Holocaust, certainly, that was largely a side effect of simply winning WW2.

Yeah, I know. My phrasing was bad. I meant they’re being praised for fighting Germany and stopping thr Holocaust, not that they entered WWII to stop the Holocaust. I was trying to point out the ridiculousness of criticizing a country trying to stop genocide happening close to it.

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China and the USSR were at war due to being invaded.

the chinese leg of the conflict is particularly goofy.

China had two, or three parties at one point, all fighting for control over the country. There was the communist party (backed by the soviets) There was the democratic party (backed by the US) and then there was also japan doing it’s thing trying to take over china as well.

Prior to this there was the russo japanese war, which was an equally big shitpost, the russians having been fucking broiled by the japanese over it, though a different story.

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-37 points

This is the weakest slowest genocide ever then

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29 points

Uh… Did you not hear of that one Lancet study about how it’s likely for every documented death there are 5 undocumented deaths? Do you understand how the Gazan healthcare system has already collapsed and they’re unable to count the dead? Even just taking the current 41k and multiplying them by 5 gives 205 thousand, or more than 10% of Gaza’s population. All of Gaza is in famine, with North Gaza faring the worst, and Israel still refuses to let aid in. How do you call 10% of the population (already more than all Hamas members) dying anything other than a genocide?

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22 points

Can’t be a genocide, if it’s not effective amirite? /s

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12 points

I guess we shouldn’t have intervened in the whole Yugoslavia thing then, I mean, clearly we have to wait until like 40% of the ethnic minority is dead!

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Just like how israel bombed Gaza for 20 years straight and then Hamas a performed a limited ground operation.

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I’m sorry, but “limited ground operation” is the same type of shadowy bullshit language as calling the genocide in Gaza a “strategic operation”.

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43 points

That’s the point.

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8 points

“Nazis weren’t so bad”

I’m reading this wrong, correct? I have had intoxicating agents.

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holy shit this entire fucking thread is brain dead dude.

Im pretty sure the V2 literally didn’t exist before they invaded poland. I’m 95% sure that’s the joke here.

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17 points

Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

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Since when is Hizbollah Palestine?

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17 points

I admit, I thought I was in a different thread.

Lebanese have the right to defend themselves, and Palestinians.

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