You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments View context
16 points

fuck the policies on the right, but also fuck some of the policies on the left. That’s why I can’t endorse.

That’s a lame take. Unless you personally are running, you’re not going to agree with everything a candidate says.

So people should just vote and stfu about any nuance within a party they disagree with?

Maybe I’m just not picking up what you’re putting down, but that’s how your comment scans to me.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

She’s not really pointing out any nuance though, she’s just vaguely saying “both sides suck, but this one sucks slightly less”. At that point, why even bother with a public announcement at all? Plenty of celebrities don’t endorse anyone and no one care because they’re not out making press releases about it.

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

Did you not watch the video? She explicitly mentions transphobia and genocide. And she made that video because a quote of hers was taken out of context (much like you’re doing) and people were saying her not endorsing Kamala meant she supports Trump.

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

I can say that there are views that Harris has that I think suck, and at the same time say that I think Trump’s views suck, but Harris is better. It’s okay to be critical and still live in the reality of living in a FPtP system. Why make a public opinion? Just look at what her comments have brought. People are talking about her criticism of Harris, while also seeing that even though Harris doesn’t exactly align with her views, she’s still a clear better choice than that shit bag Trump. Intentional or not, her comments have gone viral and spread her views which will undoubtedly have an effect on some of her fans.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-7 points

Yes, Harris’s genocide is way better than trump’s. Agree 💯

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

So people should just vote and stfu about any nuance within a party they disagree with?

Of course not. That’s helping Trump win. You have to overwhelmingly support everything the party does at all times, especially the stuff you disagree with.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-2 points

I’ve literally never heard anything even remotely close to this. Can you point me to someone who has said something that would make this an even remotely fair assessment?

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Two comments up I quote a comment that is, and not just remotely, calling out criticism of policy of the US left.

PS It has just occurred to me that you’re being sarcastic. Please disregard lol

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

So people should just vote and stfu about any nuance within a party they disagree with?

Know your audience.

I live in San Francisco. We’re not voting for Trump. I feel perfectly fine discussing the merits and drawbacks of different Dem candidates with people around me.

When you’re up against a legitimate fascist threat? Close. Fucking. Ranks. There’s no place for infighting when the margins are this close.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Until we get voting reform, the US presidential Election is a binary choice, one or the other. An endorsement is just that: supporting one candidate over the other (and obviously their policies come along with them).

Doing it this way comes across as lukewarm support and isn’t as helpful in getting people to vote for that candidate. Kamala Harris is an empathetic, intelligent person capable of introspection. Get her elected, then we can pressure her to reconsider certain policy positions…

permalink
report
parent
reply
-2 points

If she’s already elected then what reason does she have to listen to you?

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Because… she’s an empathetic, intelligent, introspective individual, who listens to experts, her advisors, and citizens. Not everyone needs to be manipulated to do the right thing…

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

Genocide to the left of me, genocide to the right…… here I am stuck in the middle with you….

permalink
report
parent
reply

politics

!politics@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to “Mom! He’s bugging me!” and “I’m not touching you!” Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That’s all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

Community stats

  • 10K

    Monthly active users

  • 12K

    Posts

  • 213K

    Comments