Rockstar Games’ servers have been under heavy fire from massive DDoS attacks in recent days, causing widespread login and connectivity issues for players of GTA Online. These attacks come in the wake of Rockstar’s recent implementation of BattlEye, a new anti-cheat system designed to crack down on in-game cheating, sparking backlash from a segment of the player base. Protesters, unhappy with the new system, have resorted to using distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attacks to disrupt the servers, escalating tensions between the gaming giant and its community.

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-49 points

Bitchy cheaters throwing a hissy that they can’t keep creating an unfair advantage for themselves in an online environment. I hope their mothers take away their internet connection for the month.

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84 points

Probably a few Linux/Steam Deck players pissed that Rockstar just nuked their ability to play without warning or reason as well.

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37 points

Those are legitimate victims, fuck the cheaters.

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51 points

The cheaters have already found a way to bypass this stupid shit. It only affects legitimate users and cheaters too stupid to figure out the seemingly trivial workaround.

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2 points

I’m upset they nuked Linux support, my PC is Linux and have a steam deck

I’m still not going to fucking ddos them for it

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-8 points

Yeah that’s shitty. I’d rather the cheaters ruin the game for a subsection of the populace rather than all of them though.

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10 points

Battleye is supported on steam deck

But honestly FUCK kernel level ACs

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19 points

Battleye is, but they didn’t enable it for Linux. Literally a switch, and they failed to do so.

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7 points

Heh, I would say the cheaters are generally much more immature and likely to DDOS. I think there is a lot of overlap over video game cheaters and script kiddies, especially when the cheaters are called hackers

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3 points

Qnd cheaters have money (the same they use to buy cheats) to pay for botnets

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Eh, I was playing it on steam deck, GTA online was just not worth it with all the cheating anyway.

What I don’t get is why they went with the most invasive kernel level stuff instead of doing even the most basic server side checks to check for users doing physically impossible stuff.

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5 points

Man, that sounds familiar. I gave up on Escape from Tarkov for the same reason.

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Server-side checks cost processing power and memory hence they need to spend more on servers.

Client side kernel-level anti-cheat only ever consumes resources and cause problems to the actual gamers, not directly to Rockstart’s bottom line (and if it makes the game comms slightly slower on the client side it might even reduce server resource consumption).

If Rockstar’s management theory is that gamers will endure just about any level of shit and keep on giving them money (a posture which, so far, has proven correct for just about every large game maker doing that kind of shit) then they will logically conclude that their bottom line won’t even suffer indirectly from making life harder for their existing clients whilst it will most definitelly suffer if they have more server costs due to implementing server side checks for cheating.

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Because it’s cheaper than actually implementing working anti heat instead of just stealing control of your computer and leaving gaping vulnerabilities on it.

After all, why would they care? It’s not their computer.

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-18 points

Linux users playing dirty? Not a good look.

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31 points

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BattlEye

Interacts with the game at the kernel level.

Fuck cheaters, but also FUCK kernel level shit, it’s possible to make a good AC without fucking around in the kernel.

I don’t even install third party Antivirus’ that hook into the kernel because of all the issues it causes. 80% of all BSODs I’ve traced back have always had a root cause because of some shit piece of software fucking around in the kernel. 15% is shitty drivers.

Kernel AVs and ACs actually act like malware in of itself with the types of hooks and interactions it performs. Anything operating at the kernel level can basically see just about everything you or your computer is doing

Fuck kernel level AC

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it’s possible to make a good AC without fucking around in the kernel.

What if the cheat runs in the kernel? I am also against these extremely invasive anti-cheat measures, but it must be clear to everyone that the cheat developers and users have no qualms about this.

A user level AC can do shit all against that if the cheat runs in ring 0.

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A) They can actually invest in server-side detection

B) Cheats running at ring0 aren’t invisible, unkillable maybe, but AC just needs to detect to ban/kick user

There’s no excuse for kernel AC, it’s just a cheap, lazy shortcut

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80% of all BSODs I’ve traced back have always had a root cause because of some shit piece of software fucking around in the kernel

CrowdStrike has entered the chat.

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They’ve been a boom to the cyber security industry though, even though it wasn’t a virus and didn’t really damage anything simply the fact that it happened has forced management to actually appreciate the importance of cyber security, and cyber integrity.

They are hiring like crazy now.

Now if only the United States could be convinced that remote working isn’t the work of the devil, we might be in for a productive few decades in the technology space. No need for AI

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