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If you are maxing your Roth 401k and Roth IRA

You can’t max both, you have to choose between them.

Your assumption there is someone maxing out their retirement options

The math doesn’t change if your contributions are smaller. This is a game of percentages.

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You definitely can max both a 401k and IRA you can also max an HSA. All these combined allow for an individual (not family) to save $34,150 (there are some edge cases I’m ignoring). Someone who can afford to save almost the US median salary amount is almost certainly going to have a higher benefit from traditional than Roth.

Also, the math completely changes if you aren’t maxing because if you aren’t maxing the contribution than adding more to the contribution gives you more tax advantaged investments (instead of taxable brokerage investments).

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