Footage of two New York City police officers opening fire at a subway station as they confronted a man holding a knife shows they shot at him as he was standing still, his arms by his side and his back to a train.
In the days since Sunday’s shooting, police officials have repeatedly emphasized that the officers fired after Derell Mickles “charged” at one of them, and when their attempts to deescalate the situation and use Tasers had failed — leaving them with little choice but to resort to deadly force to protect themselves and passengers.
The footage, uploaded to the NYPD’s YouTube page Friday, offers a different view of the shooting that not only wounded Mickles but also a bystander, who was hit in the head with a stray bullet. Gregory Delpeche, 49, was sent to the hospital in critical condition, where doctors had to open up his skull to reduce brain swelling, according to his family.
What a word salad of a headline. Did the officers wound the four that got wounded? Did the man with the knife wound them? Was the man with the knife involved with the shooting at all? Really confusing.
it says shooting that wounded 4 people. the guy had a knife. unless you know how to shoot with a knife, it’s obvious that the cops wounded them.
It’s ambiguous - is the “subway shooting” referring to the police shooting, or were the police responding to a separate shooting, and someone involved in that shooting also had a knife?
Yes. The cops shot 4 people. The man with the knife, two random people on the train, and one of the cops. One of the random people is in the hospital with brain swelling, and may be brain dead.
The cops claimed they had to open fire because the knife wielding man charged them. This video shows he did no such thing when they shot him, he wasn’t even waving it around. He turned his head with his hands down on at sides, his back to the train, standing still. That’s when two of the cops opened fire on him and a crowded train.
The article that is linked explains what happened.
The cops claimed they had to open fire because the knife wielding man charged them. This video shows he did no such thing when they shot him, he wasn’t even waving it around.
Let’s get one thing clear, he definitely chased a cop with the knife out. Clearly unstable and screamed “shoot” several times during the encounter. I say that to demonstrate his state of mind, not that people who say that should be shot.
The suspect charging the cop is at the linked timestamp: https://youtu.be/-EaAraFPzEo?t=952
Yes, at one point they had a justification to fire, although that was clearly a dangerous action at any point. They did not have a reason to shoot him and the 3 other people when they did.
There needs to be an imminent threat to them or bystanders when using deadly force. He was an immediate threat to neither at the time. Their recklessness has effectively ended one innocent persons life, and injured several other people.
