“Jill Stein is a useful idiot for Russia. After parroting Kremlin talking points and being propped up by bad actors in 2016 she’s at it again,” DNC spokesman Matt Corridoni said in a statement to The Bulwark. “Jill Stein won’t become president, but her spoiler candidacy—that both the GOP and Putin have previously shown interest in—can help decide who wins. A vote for Stein is a vote for Trump.”

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-45 points

Not even gonna try to rationalize it huh.

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Tell us which non-genocide candidate has any sort of chance to win the election.

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-43 points

Man, things have gotten that bad huh. What a sentence.

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The problem is that “support genocide” is being used overly broadly.

The stated policy of the Biden/Harris administration is that Israel has a right to defend itself.

Surprise! They do. Every sovereign nation has that right.

As a result of that stated policy, Biden and Harris both support providing weapons and funding for the continual defense of Israel.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/23/g-s1-19232/kamala-harris-israel-gaza-dnc

So follow me here:

  1. Israel has a right to defend itself.
  2. The US will support that defense.

Where it breaks down is Bibi and Likud taking that defensive support and directing it into the Genocide.

That’s on THEM. The United States is making a good faith effort to provide support for the defense of Israel. Israel is intentionally misapplying that support.

Trump’s stated policy is that Israel needs to kill everyone quicker.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-israel-pr-hugh-hewitt-21faee332d95fec99652c112fbdcd35d

“They’re losing the PR war. They’re losing it big. But they’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”

Only one of these two policies is pro-genocide, Trumps.

Biden/Harris is pro-defense which is illegitimately being used for genocide, not at all the same as being pro-genocide.

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7 points

Yeah they have gotten that bad. I’m glad that you’ve finally decided to accept that. That’s the first step.

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🌍🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

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21 points

LOL ok, you’re cool with throwing your vote away

that doesn’t mean anyone else is obliged to waste time “rationalizing” NOT throwing their vote away to you

do what you want. just know that your third party vote did NOTHING for palestine. and NOTHING for anyone else either.

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I wish it meant we did nothing for palestine. Instead of it meaning bombs and funding continues to pour into the arms of the country thats killing them.

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12 points

so throw your fucking vote away

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Telling someone they are throwing away their vote because they won’t support your team is right wing authoritarian voter suppression.

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“Teams” don’t enter into it.

One candidate poses an existential threat to our country and way of life.

One other candidate can defeat them.

Taking a vote away from the 2nd candidate has the same net effect as voting for the first one.

You either help beat Trump or you help elect him. A 3rd party will not win, so voting 3rd party doesn’t help beat Trump.

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Nice straw man. You’re throwing your vote away because you are voting for a candidate that has zero chance of winning, while one of the two actual options is a literal fascist who will give Netanyahu carte blanche in Palestine and the other realizes she has to walk a narrow tightrope before November if she wants to get elected and have any influence over Israel whatsoever.

But I know you know this already.

If the Green Party was a serious political party, then why do they never care about down ballot elections? Why don’t they ever care about local elections? Why do they disappear, only to crawl out from their hole every four years to sow division among American voters?

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13 points

Why do you love Trump so much you’re trying so hard to get him into power?

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-14 points

Democrats supporting a genocide is whats gonna do it.

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