Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Ukraine should be allowed to strike deep inside Russia, despite Moscow threatening that this would draw Canada and its allies into direct war.

“Canada fully supports Ukraine using long-range weaponry to prevent and interdict Russia’s continued ability to degrade Ukrainian civilian infrastructure, and mostly to kill innocent civilians in their unjust war,” Trudeau told reporters at a news conference in Ste-Anne-de-Bellevue, Que., on Friday.

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Afghanistan. Iraq. Iran. Libya. Syria.

But, suuuure. This time it’s different.

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Ah yes, it’s…

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the US fault that Russia invaded Ukraine. Right, makes perfect sense, carry on.

The only involvement the US or even most of the NATO countries have had in this complete shitshow has been to sell obsolete military hardware to Ukraine at a steep discount. It was probably cheaper to ship the stuff in bulk to Ukraine than it would cost to properly decommission it so might even have saved some money doing that.

Russia desperately wants to make this a fight with NATO or even better the US so they look like less of a laughing stock for losing this badly.

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This time it’s different.

I understand where you’re coming from. I think you’re naive.

If we wanted the war to be won then we’d have already settled it with superior airpower and munitions. Instead, we offer limited assistance and imposed Vietnam-style geographic rules.

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Don’t forget Vietnam and Korea.

The US is constantly enmeshed in wars, but when was the last time Americans actually won one? 1945?

That was 79 years ago. Almost one whole Biden.

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Don’t forget Vietnam and Korea.

Vietnam and Korea were hot wars. My examples are proxy wars where the locals retiliated with “terrorism”.

The US is constantly enmeshed in wars, but when was the last time Americans actually won one? 1945?

We’re achieving our goals in Ukraine right now, as we did in all my examples above. The last time we lost was Vietnam, unless we’re also counting failed coup attempts (2020).

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My examples are proxy wars where the locals retiliated with “terrorism”.

Doesn’t that describe Vietnam?

We’re achieving our goals in Ukraine right now, as we did in all my examples above.

Is your point that the US goes to war to fund the military industrial complex rather than to achieve victory? Because otherwise I’m not understanding your point.

I don’t think any of those conflicts (including Ukraine) went the way the US wanted them to.

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That was the moron wing of US foreign policy.

Look again and tell me this is the same, Russia has been invaded by their version of Canada.

This is what we should have been doing in the 2010s, which we wasted because of the inbred moron wing of texas trying to control oil.

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That was the moron wing of US foreign policy.

So, the reason the program has been so successful for decades is because it’s being run by morons?

That’s how you’re backing your assertion of “vatnik propaganda”?

Wow. Good luck with that nonsense.

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So, the reason the program has been so successful for decades is because it’s being run by morons?

First, it hasn’t been successful in the 2000s and 2010s.

Secondly, it’s been “successful” if you want to call it, because we have UNIMAGINABLE RESOURCES!!!

We have an infinite ammo hack enabled, and we always have wall-hacking from all our fused intel sources.

The problem is, we’re excellent at killing anyone we want to kill, that’s trivial for us, what isn’t easy is getting people to actually want to like us after we’ve just killed people they know.

Also a lot of our trouble in the middle east was encouraged by Iran and even Russia, those RPGs came from somewhere.

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