I cringe every time I hear another guy refer to women like this

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Itโ€™s fine if itโ€™s consistent imo.

Men and women - ๐Ÿ‘

Males and females - ๐Ÿ‘

Boys and girls - ๐Ÿ‘

Guys and gals - ๐Ÿ‘

Men and females - ๐Ÿ‘Ž

Men and girls - ๐Ÿ‘Ž

Men and chicks - ๐Ÿ‘Ž

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Folks ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐ŸŒพ

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Dicks and chicks. Like the band.

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The ONLY time itโ€™s fine is if itโ€™s in a medical report or scientific paper. Written by actual doctors or scientists. And it is done to dehumanize the subject to make it easier for, say, a medical examiner to write a report without breaking down.

Using male and female for people is inheritantly dehumanizing, and thatโ€™s only ok in very specific circumstances.

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Whatโ€™s the male equivalent of Femoids? Is it just Moids?

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I think it unironically would be androids.

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dudes and dudettes?

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males and females is still psychotic if youโ€™re not specifically talking science like biology, statistics, etc. adjectives as nouns are rarely a good sign in general; itโ€™s almost always derogative.

also boys and girls would be fine except most people who use (or claim to use) boys do it in familiar sense only. theyโ€™d never call a 40 year old jacked man they donโ€™t know a boy, but theyโ€™d easily call a grown ass woman they donโ€™t know a girl. exceptions are some phrases like โ€œbig boyโ€ or โ€œmy boyโ€ in endearing sense but thatโ€™s not how โ€œgirlโ€ is generally used, which is a substitute for โ€œwomanโ€.

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adjectives as nouns are rarely a good sign in general

I donโ€™t think thatโ€™s true unless you mean within the context of referring to people or something, e.g. the blacks, the poors. But then stuff like โ€œthe richโ€ and โ€œthe unemployedโ€ I donโ€™t really take issue with.

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yeah, youโ€™re right but theyโ€™re two different cases. notice how when itโ€™s right you donโ€™t pluralize it with an -s because some adjectives have a form of a plural noun, so they donโ€™t have a singular form: โ€œa poorโ€ or โ€œa blackโ€ is just yikes. you can find words like โ€œrichโ€ as plural nouns apart from the adjective forms in the dictionary. you might find โ€œfemaleโ€ and โ€œblackโ€ as a noun for people too, but they should be marked offensive either directly or in usage notes.

so thatโ€™s the distinction. โ€œblackโ€ or โ€œfemaleโ€ donโ€™t exist as plural nouns like โ€œthe richโ€ or โ€œthe blessedโ€.

interestingly enough there are exceptions. there is no plural noun โ€œthe gayโ€ but โ€œgaysโ€ usually isnโ€™t offensive as a noun, but also โ€œa gayโ€ is weird and offensive. language is complicated.

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A lot of prior military folks will use males and females just because thatโ€™s how itโ€™s been drilled into them. Male and female latrines, not men and womenโ€™s bathrooms. Male and female barracks, not men and womenโ€™s dorms. Male and female standards, etc etc.

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dehumanization is part of military. thatโ€™s not really an argument for it.

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36 points

Tamales and females

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Context is king, so I donโ€™t think this is universal. Decent list though.

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80 points

Comrades - โ˜ญ

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Chaps and dames

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Men and chicks - ๐Ÿ‘Ž

What about โ€œdudes and chicks?โ€

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โ€œDudes and dudettesโ€ seems more on the level.

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11 points

Picture you gettin down inside a picture tube.

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Seadogs and wenches - ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ

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ใƒพ(โŒโ– _โ– )ใƒŽโ™ช

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Bros and broads - ๐Ÿค”

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Guys and Dolls - ๐Ÿ‘ (jazz hands)

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