“We are all culpable,” Matt Nelson said before lighting himself on fire. This is the third such incident in a year.

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It’s not a revolutionary act, it’s suicide. He killed himself. And it changed nothing.

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Individual revolutionary actions never change anything until suddenly they do. The Arab Spring is an obvious example.

I want to be clear, this is a tragedy. A person opposed to genocide just died and that’s terrible, and furthermore, it’s our fault because we didn’t give him any options to oppose genocide. If we were organized he’d have options. We aren’t, and he was alone.

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The Arab Spring is an obvious example.

And how did that one, specifically, turn out in the long run? I’m not an expert, but it is my understanding that the Arab Spring is considered by most to have been a failure.

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Well, it successfully overthrew several governments and collapsed several countries. It accomplished something.

The problem, of course, is that there wasn’t an organized revolutionary movement behind it. Spontaneous uprisings almost never work out for the better, we can’t just overthrow the government and then expect things to naturally work themselves out.

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Genocide denial.

Tens of thousands of children blown to pieces and buried under rubble. Systematically starving and depriving the population of sanitation, clean water, soap, antibiotics, or literally any means of surviving a severe wound. There’s no anesthesia in the entire strip, and Israel prevents aid workers from bringing any inside, so they have to do all treatment and amputations without it. Israeli soldiers round up children into prisons and torture them. They target aid workers, reporters, doctors for sniping. They rape and torture prisoners, cut their limbs off, and then they brag about it.

And it’s why we shouldn’t kill ourselves. We aren’t the ones that deserve to die.

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Yes, gaslighting really helps people in mental distress /s

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And it changed nothing.

By that metric no human effort has any ultimate meaning, and choosing to live over choosing to die is just as tedious.

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His comment is nihilism incarnate. Nihilists are people IMO that should largely be outright dismissed.

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Nihilists are people IMO that should largely be outright dismissed.

You clearly do not know what that word means. I would urge you to educate yourself before dismissing an entire group of people.

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We’re talking about it. I am think about Palestinian kids being unhappy and not havijg clean water instead of eating snacks and doing other things. Saying it changed nothing is factually incorrect.

There are some people who do not have the view that Israel is commiting genocide or that Israel is justified in killing Palestinians because of the original attack. Some people think the issue is complicated and may not be sure of what to think and may rethink their opinion of this. You’re just wrong.

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You’re right about this. When everything with Isreal first happened I thought they were justified since they were attacked first.
Now… now not so much. As much as I hate that people are killing themselves, I probably wouldn’t have looked closer at what’s going on and changed my mind.

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We’re people who were talking about it anyway, my dude.

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