You should never support the scumbags at Hasbro/WOTC if you are into tabletop games

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LLMs are absolutely brilliant for D&D. If you get writers block explaining the story so far you can get some amazing suggestions.

Obviously generating art if you’re not that way inclined is also amazing.

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Maybe if you’re a GM looking for quick inspiration, but not if you’re a for profit company whose job is to put out original content.

What’re the LLMs even supposed to feed on if companies start putting out generated content? It very quickly implodes if this becomes the norm.

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8 points

That’s the great part! We make sure only rich people can access the best models so the poor people are forced to handmake content training data for us!

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Exactly. I can sit down and spend a few hours designing tokens or portraits, or I can use AI to do it in seconds. There is a purpose for us at home to use it. There is NO purpose for a company as big as Hasbro to use it to create their content.

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2 points

Worse, you know it’s gonna be deployed into every sector. Better get ready to like your AI-designed Transformers toys, or your new My Little Pony lineup made possible by ChatGPT.

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-2 points

I thought it was obvious I was talking about personal use.

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3 points

That was in no way clear

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21 points

Nah get the fuck out of my hobby with that stolen shit. If I learnt that my GM was using AI I’d be out of there so fast.

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-19 points

Yeah like people aren’t using existing materials in their campaigns.

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These are not the same. Here are some of the ways someone may be fine with reusing existing material while being against AI:

  • Someone may value thoughtful and coherent world building, while feeling like the AI generated amalgamation dilutes the cohesiveness of the material.
  • Someone can be for public sharing of ideas, while simultaneously against AI companies disregarding licenses attached to those ideas to build AI products.
  • Someone can value the personality and individual perspective that a content author or DM injects into material and feel that AI-generated material lacks this character.

Don’t reduce the use of AI down to the reuse of material. It also averages out material into some sort of lowest common denominator - sacrificing exactly the things that many niche fandoms value: personality and imagination.

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5 points

As either inspiration or use it directly for a game that isn’t for profit.

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4 points

Their tongue in your teeth

Why speak your own words when they can be stolen for you, with great convenience

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I feel like people are tearing you a new one for suggesting an actually useful and arguably ethical use of AI… If it isn’t for profit, it isn’t for the public, it’s fine. The only real concern is energy usage which don’t get me wrong is a problem but nerds getting past writers block isn’t going to be a meaningful impact compared to massive companies running millions of prompts with their public facing help bots. GMs yoink content from other creators constantly sometimes nearly word for word. Not everyone has the time to sink into building a shiny and perfect original world and tools like AI let them spend the time they have actually playing with friends. Don’t hate on people for liking or using AI for mundane personal stuff when the fight is with companies abusing these tools

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-8 points

I was clearly talking about personal use.

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I wouldn’t say “brilliant” or “amazing” but I do agree with you. Helping me get passed writer’s block or brainstorm ideas is the best use of AI in TTRPGs.

With that said though, fuck WotC and Hasbro. I’ve sworn off buying anymore of their shit since the OGL debacle. And they should actually pay writers and artists for their content, paid, free, or otherwise.

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Yeah anyone who can afford to pay for the services of a creative absolutely should of course.

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AI “art” is theft at every level.

A DM/GM using using an LLM will lose what makes their story theirs. It becomes hollow and heartless.

A corporation using either of those things simply doesn’t want to pay artists and writers and will learn that AI is not the panacea to stockholder complaints they want it to be.

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You know GMs will sometimes also use good old-fashioned directly stolen art from the Internet, right?

Whether it’s AI generated or just ripped from Google images or from a fantasy novel, if it’s for personal use, what difference does that make?

I do agree though that using AI for anything that is for profit is effectively a crime, especially huge corporations like Hasbro.

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Not sure where you think people learn art from hehe

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2 points

D&D isn’t about writing. It’s about live, collaborative story telling with friends.

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I think that statement massively downplays the amount of work a DM puts in behind the scenes to create the world.

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I’d rather build a world together.

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