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Because human life is more valuable than things.

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Is that true? Interesting. I am sure the dead are enjoying all of their human rights to the fullest.

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The problem is people applying laws like castle doctrine outside of situations that they were intended for… then shitty judges allow it to be applied outside of those situations… resulting in these random ass killings for people knocking on doors. It’s messed up and horrible.

But at the same time a few years ago a family near my friends house had someone break in, killed the two parents and then chased down the son and killed him in the woods. The young man tried to retreat and was killed anyway. THEN they robbed the house. They were looking for stuff to steal and sell for drugs. Then they set the house on fire.

https://www.courant.com/2018/05/14/details-emerge-of-brutality-in-deaths-of-griswold-family-members/

If someone is legitimately breaking into your house you should be able to defend yourself if you can’t get away. It doesn’t need to be a gun, but you should not go to jail for hurting someone who is in your house who is not supposed to be there.

There’s no way to tell if that person is just a burglar or might fucking kill you over your stuff. What are you supposed to do? Ask them? “Excuse me criminal, are you the murderous type or just a burglar?”

Obviously leave if you can, but this case shows running away doesn’t always work. That poor family.

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Thats obvious to everyone here you cant lmao

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That’s a you problem.

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You should be able to use reasonable force. If you’re trying to subdue a homicidal maniac then you can choke them unconscious or knock them unconscious or kill them if that’s all you have means to do. But if you just have someone who wants to be rude and yell in your face, then you don’t have a right to kill them.

I think it depends on who causes the confrontation and who is escalating the situation to different levels of violence.

Also, I think there’s different ways to interpret stand your ground as a concept. You can stand your ground and use reasonable force to secure your safety. You should not be able to stand your ground and murder someone so as not to inconvenience yourself if you don’t want to take a step back or move out of someone’s way for example.

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Who was attacking who when two kids were sitting in their car?

No answer required, FYI.

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