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And propagandists are exploiting that as well. They feel all their issues with the changes in dating and relationships in general are the fault of “the left” and women in general, there are no shortage of people waiting to jump on those points for their own financial and political gain.

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Of course they will, it’s not on them to do so differently.

Imo it’s on democrats and “left leaning parties” to appeal to young men and maybe put similar attention to men’s issues as they do for women’s.

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But their issues with society aren’t the fault of society. They don’t measure up in whatever way, don’t aim to improve themselves, and then go and blame everyone else but themselves.

I say this as a perpetually single guy (a decade since my last relationship) who isn’t exactly an incel in the meaning of that term, but am in the literal “involuntary” part. I just recognize I’m the problem not changes in society.

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I don’t think I would agree that society is not at fault. When you tell an entire generation of men that their worth is in the economic value they create and then refuse to pay them more than a pittance it is easy to see why they might be upset by that. That’s only one aspect of the problem but it’s absolutely societal in nature.

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Yeah no. “Appeal to men” these days means telling them it’s ok to be assholes to women because that’s what they want to hear.

And I will have nothing to do with a party like that. It’s why I don’t vote republican.

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