Also wrong. Rigged elections would imply there ever was a communist Russia. There never was. It was (maybe at its best, in part) socialist and most of the time after the zars a military state. That is true for all states that were left leaning btw. No communists to be found.
Great argument. What do you base this on?
It’s like china calling itself communist right now.
Yes there was rhetoric in the USSR that suggested they were but it was an instrument to legitimate the horrible things that they did to their people.
From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society
A communist society is characterized by common ownership of the means of production with free access[1][2] to the articles of consumption and is classless, stateless, and moneyless,[3][4][5][6] implying the end of the exploitation of labour.[7][8]
That was not the case. It was state owned, as the transition from whatever system was there before to socialism plans. Communism is supposed to be something different.
I am not arguing that it would be good or better than anything we have today but am saying that we never saw communism in the modern world.
Change my mind with arguments and not down votes.
China doesn’t call itself communist. It’s Socialist with Chinese characteristics.
Okay lets use wiki as a source… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_communist_states
The following communist states were socialist states committed to communism. Some were short-lived and preceded the widespread adoption of Marxism–Leninism by most communist states.
Russia Russia
Chita Republic (1905–1906)
Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (1917–1991)
Amur Socialist Soviet Republic (1918)
Turkestan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1918–1924)
Volga German Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1918–1941)
Bashkir Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1919–1991)
Tatar Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1920–1990)
Kirghiz Autonomous Socialist Soviet Republic (1920–1925)
Mountain Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1921–1924)
Dagestan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1921–1991)
Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1921–1941; 1944–1945)
Yakut Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1922–1991)
Buryat Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1923–1990)
Karelian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1923–1940; 1956–1991)
Kazakh Autonomous Socialist Soviet Republic (1925–1936)
Kirghiz Autonomous Socialist Soviet Republic (1926–1936)
Mordovian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1934–1990)
Udmurt Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1934–1990)
Kalmyk Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1935–1943; 1957–1991)
Checheno-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1936–1944; 1957–1991)
Kabardino-Balkarian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1936–1944; 1957–1991)
Komi Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1936–1991)
Mari Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1936–1991)
North Ossetian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1936–1993)
Karelo-Finnish Soviet Socialist Republic (1940–1956)
Kabardin Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1944–1957)
Tuvan Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1961–1992)
Gorno-Altai Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (1990–1991)
Soviet Republic of Soldiers and Fortress-Builders of Naissaar (1917–1918)
Donetsk–Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic (1918)
Crimean Socialist Soviet Republic (1919)
Far Eastern Republic Far Eastern Republic (1920–1922)
Tuvan People's Republic Tuvan People's Republic (1921–1944)
Soviet Union Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (1922–1991)
Would you look at that…
Communism isn’t about ideological purity. The USSR never made it to the global, total, Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society Marx describes as Upper Stage Communism, but the Soviets never argued that they had. What the Soviets did, was begin the process of working towards that.
This is incorrect. The USSR was Socialist, and was attempting to work towards building Communism.
Yes working towards as in socialism is the first stage to communism. But they didn’t get far thus my argument was there wasn’t communism in the USSR.
They got pretty far, they were Socialist for nearly the entire 20th century. They liberalized towards the end and were dissolved, but the narrative that they weren’t Socialist or that it wasn’t a real attempt at building Communism is nonsense.