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Silver made a prediction. That’s the deliverable.

I see what you’re not getting! You are confusing giving the odds with making a prediction and those are very different.

Let’s go back to the coin flips, maybe it’ll make things more clear.

I or Silver might point out there’s a 75% chance anything besides two heads in a row happening (which is accurate.) If, as will happen 1/4 times, two heads in a row does happen, does that somehow mean the odds I gave were wrong?

Same with Silver and the 2016 election.

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I or Silver might point out there’s a 75% chance anything besides two heads in a row happening (which is accurate.)

Is it?

Suppose I gave you two coins, which may or may not be weighted. You think they aren’t, and I think they are weighted 2:1 towards heads. Your model predicts one head, and mine predicts two heads.

We toss and get two heads. Does that mean the odds I gave are right? Does it mean the odds you gave are wrong?

In the real world, your odds will depends on your priors, which you can never prove or disprove. If we were working with coins, then we could repeat the experiment and possibly update our priors.

But suppose we only have one chance to toss them, and after which they shatter. In that case, the model we use for the coins, weighted vs unweighted, is just a means to arrive at a prediction. The prediction can be right or wrong, but the internal workings of a one-shot model - including odds - are unfalsifiable. Same with Silver and the 2016 election.

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The thing is, Nate Silver did not make a prediction about the 2016 race.

He said that Hilary had a higher chance of winning. He didn’t say Hilary was going to win.

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How can you falsify the claim “Clinton has a higher chance of winning”?

Alternately:

Silver said “Clinton has a higher chance of winning in 2016” whereas Michael Moore said “Trump has a higher chance of winning in 2016”.

In hindsight, is one of these claims more valid than the other? Because if two contradictory claims are equally valid, then they are both meaningless.

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