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And what are you offering?

You really think that all the voters who didn’t force the Dems to nominate a true Progressive in 2020 are going to vote for some as yet unnamed candidate in November?

We’re in danger of drowning, and your response is to complain that the lifeboat doesn’t have WiFi.

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Precisely. This crowd loves to talk a good talk about the ratchet or the Overton window, but offers absolutely nothing in terms of practical, realistic solutions.

No, a third party progressive with zero national name recognition and no ballot access in a majority of the country is not going to magically win 270 electoral votes if you write them in. If going viral was that easy everyone would do it. So grow up and offer a practical solution, or shut the fuck up.

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I recall a post somewhere from a person saying they can tell when a leftist online is from a blue state or a red state by how they act - I think this whole interaction is very telling where this person is from.

In my state, I’d be happy to have a Democrat of basically any kind over a Republican. Abortion rights are fucked, public education is hobbled, and I expect LGBT rights to be eroded further in the next year or so. Would I like to see leftist policies implemented? Absolutely, but I’ll take what I can conceivably get, even if that means things simply don’t get worse.

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Yes this is very well said. Whenever I see these kinds of comments I can’t help but wonder just how much privilege the author is conveniently disregarding.

I got into words one time with an acquaintance over the idea of protest voting. He really got under my skin because he said something to the effect of “well if trump wins I’ll be fine, and if I’m not I’ll just leave” - it’s like yeah dude, you can do that, plenty of other people can’t.

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Back in the day, Ho Chi Minh was happy to work with the American OSS to get the Japanese out of Veit-Nam.

These guys would call him a lackey and a stooge.

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