'It's very possible': Trump floats imprisoning his political opponents(www.nbcnews.com)

If most people have already forgotten about it, maybe that’s the disconnect I’ve been experiencing? Why people don’t realize how much Dems have changed in the last three cycles?

They just genuinely don’t know what it was like before trump?

That actually makes a lot of sense, and honestly I should have thought about that.

Before we can get people on board with what we should do, we need to make sure they’re aware of what has happened. People don’t understand how much they’ve lost over just a few decades.

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Dagwood222@lemm.ee

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5 months ago

So, by the stories you posted yourself, there were people who switched from McCain to Obama after Obama beat Hillary.

Kind of like the 2008 election had two good candidates who respected the system and each other.

Nice try.

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givesomefucks@lemmy.world

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5 months ago

https://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/26/clinton.backers/index.html

You missed one I guess

Well. At least one.

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Dagwood222@lemm.ee

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5 months ago

You’re hilarious.

Yes, one person is exactly the same as a mass movement. The subject got headlines because she was rare.

You were trying to imply that after Obama got the nod there was a mass migration from the Dems to McCain, and that loss was only made up by a massive Left tsunami that had sat out the primaries.

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givesomefucks@lemmy.world

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5 months ago

So you didn’t read the Wikipedia link either?

During the campaign, there was significant media discussion of Democratic Hillary Clinton voters backing McCain, in particular members of People United Means Action (also known as PUMA, originally standing for “Party Unity My Ass,” and also known as “Just Stay No Deal”) and those sympathetic to it.[40] After Clinton’s June 8 concession, 40% of women who supported Clinton described themselves as dissatisfied and 7% described themselves as angry; 25% said they would support McCain in November.[41]

Polling data According to Gallup Polls from June 9 to August 17 McCain’s cross-party support fluctuated between 10% and 13%. In the poll for August 18 to August 24 support for McCain among Democrats peaked at 14%. From October 13 to October 19 polls showed McCain’s support among Democrats to be 7%, which was the lowest thus far.[42] The CNN exit polls placed his Democratic support at 10% with the same percentage for liberal support. These results may not represent the general voters due to early voting.[43]

According to exit polls on Election Day, McCain won the votes of only 10% of Democrats nationwide, the same percentage of Democrats’ votes that George W. Bush won in 2004.[5]

Or the poll it referenced? I linked that too

You were trying to imply that after Obama got the nod there was a mass migration from the Dems to McCain,

Nope, I said:

It happened when Obama managed to beat Hillary in 08. Moderates had a movement to vote Republican over Obama, and they did.

They were just statistically insignificant and Obama had a landslide win that flipped multiple red states and got us the House and Senate.

Like, it seems the issue is your drastically underestimating how disproportionately moderate party leads represent the very very tiny percentage of Dem voters who are “moderate”. The moderates are not the bulk of the party, they never were.

But to be honest, it doesn’t seem like you’re interested in actual talking about this, you keep trying to turn this into an argument…

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Dagwood222@lemm.ee

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5 months ago

According to exit polls on Election Day, McCain won the votes of only 10% of Democrats nationwide, the same percentage of Democrats’ votes that George W. Bush won in 2004.[5]

So, literally no mass movemnet by “Moderates” trying to screw over the Left.

I don’t want to talk about it because it’s meaningless.

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givesomefucks@lemmy.world

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5 months ago

Recap of “ancient” history:

On 9/11/01 terrorists attacked America…

This made everyone embrace a shitty leader and even questioning them led to social outcasting for years

The facts that 08 matched the first election since 9/11 is too illustrate how fucking huge it was…

But honestly, if I don’t block you now, you’re going to say something else that is so easy to explain I take the two seconds. You haven’t learned anything yet, I doubt you will if I put more time in.

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