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Maybe if the SJWs would fucking pay attention in between elections and not pout and withhold their votes on Election Day…

This wouldn’t be a problem. But no- it’s the fault of voters.

Fucking lunacy.

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Democratic Party leadership has known this to be a factor for decades, and has steadfastly refused to adapt to the existing political reality.

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What, that whiny SJWs cannot be negotiated with? Finally we agree on something.

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And we know if they gave into the demands of social justice warriors, we’d have to live in a more just society!

How awful.

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So you understand the political reality and recognize that party leadership needs to adapt to the electorate they have.

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Steve Bannon is a pussy.

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What an absolutely deranged claim. What is it that “SJWs” are advocating for that you think is invalid? Because if it’s something along the lines of “they should stop advocating for an oppressed group of people” you should really consider what it means to try to build political power. Unless you’re going for “if we give the billionaires more stuff, maybe they’ll let us have medical care, as a treat.”

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It’s not that it’s invalid, it’s that typically most people have no desire or input into the political sphere through their own choices right up until the presidential election and then get pissy that the things they want aren’t being done.

No shit, if you want them done you have to show up for more than one election to build the political capital to do it. Does that mean their ideas are invalid? No, just that you can’t sit out 90% of the time and then expect to be taken seriously.

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Exactly this.

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This is exactly what I’m saying.

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If they are “SJWs”, the claim isn’t really that they aren’t politically active, is it? In fact, the claim is that they aren’t spending the four years between presidential elections focused on the next presidential election. As it happens, if you are building political power, spending all that time and energy focused on a single national race is almost certainly a waste of resources. So, what’s the claim here? That “SJWs” spend far too much time concerned about the actual lives of people to engage in “enough” political advocacy to convince a preexisting party to handle those issues instead?

I think it makes far more sense to do the work and advocacy that is required to make people’s lives better directly, and thus have built a popular movement that the major parties want to jump on the bandwagon of, rather than spend years trying to convince these lumbering facets of the establishment that they should do the work instead.

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They’re essentially just disposable social justice advocates. They bitch and moan during election years then banish right after only to return as victims of their own inability to do the actual work to net the change they demanded.

This happens every election.

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See, doing the work, I see a lot of people pushing back online saying “but are you going to vote for my candidate for the promise of maybe one day doing the work you’re doing”? Like, genuinely, I’ve been being asked if I’m voting for Biden in 2024 for years, as if the only thing that matters is the election. Caring about a very specific election for four years is not all that distinguishable from only caring once every four years. And when the alternative political power structures try to express what little political power they have, the establishment runs back to “but if you don’t vote for us regardless of what we do, the other guys will be worse”. Even when there are examples of doing something as “awful” and “dangerous” as withholding an endorsement in an election year can be shown to be actually effective and get actual good work done (see: the UAW holding off on endorsing Biden until he actually went to bat for them and helped get landmark contracts passed). Should we considet the Biden or Bust crew that’s been beating the drum the past four years just as disposable and unable to effect change they demand?

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Steve Bannon is a pussy.

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Yes he is. Without a doubt.

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The SJWs aren’t the ones abstaining, it’s the centrists on lemmy.ml

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