The Brazilian president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, has said he hopes the crisis surrounding the social network X in Brazil might teach the world that “it isn’t obliged to put up with [Elon] Musk’s far-right free-for-all just because he is rich”.

Lula’s comments to the network CNN Brasil came after the supreme court voted unanimously on Monday to uphold the ban on X, which is now largely inaccessible in one of its biggest global markets.

The suspension was first ordered on Friday as a result of the company’s refusal to obey court orders requiring the removal of profiles accused of spreading disinformation and for the social network to name a local legal representative.

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Except it does. Money = speech = power and he has the most of any human.

Downvote this all you want, it won’t change the reality that Musk is more powerful than any other human currently alive on earth. I hate him too, but you can’t deny his power.

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It’s all a ruse

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SCOTUS told America the President could have anyone killed as long as it was an official act. And you’re still going to say the guy with an indirect access to influence has more power?

Hah.

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The three most powerful people on earth are the US President, the President of the Russian Federation, and any Captain of an Ohio class submarine

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and money chooses who each of these is

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By that logic musk would be president right now so doesnt make much sense. Its less about money and more about your family and friends. Almost all presidents of the United states have been descendants from the same british family. Including Obama yes.

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Why isn’t Trump president?

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I would like to see some evidence that Elon Musk can choose who is captain of an Ohio class submarine.

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Doesn’t seem like it’s working out so well for him on Brazil…

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I’m sure he’ll cry about it a lot while wiping his tears away with bills worth more than you or I will ever make in a lifetime.

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Uhh okay? He’s so powerful his website (which he didn’t want to buy in the first place) is blocked in a whole country.

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Turns out that if you are not a Right-wing shit head you can legislate and govern against people with money that try to do as they will :O

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The assesment that he’s the wealthiest person on earth is pretty dubious, actually. The analyses which list the worlds wealthiest people always are, because they have to decide what counts as wealth and how to count it.

Normally that’s fairly easy, but for very powerful people (who, as you point out, the people at the top of those lists are) it gets murky because of things like stocks and options which they could liquidate in theory, but which would crash in value if they tried to actually do so. Does it still count as wealth if it only exists so long as you don’t spend it?

There are also people who’s wealth isn’t held in any currency, or gold, or stocks. How do you measure the wealth or power of a sovereign king, or any other kind of dictator? You certainly can’t neatly put it in a scale alongside people who just have a dragon’s horde of cash somewhere, that wouldn’t be comparing like for like

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How do you measure the wealth or power of a sovereign king, or any other kind of dictator?

This is also borne out in practice as you watch the purportedly “most powerful man on Earth” constantly tap dance for Putin in lockstep with the GOP. As a kleptocratic dictator, he informally adds the entire country’s economy to his personal net worth.

The GOP is foaming at the mouth to form a right-wing dictatorship in this country for precisely the reason you are addressing here. A person with powers of complete dictatorship over the world’s biggest economy would definitively make them the most powerful man on Earth without a second even deserving mention.

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Money = Speech = Power

Maybe in the US it is so, but the Citizens United decision does not apply outside of there. Some countries value the power of democracy more than money.

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Name one. All I see is lip service. Action is a whole different matter.

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I mean what are we looking at right now?

Another example: Unions don’t cave to Tesla in Sweden, this dispute appears to be still ongoing even after another 9 months.

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The nazis, too, had a lot of power and yet they lost WW II.

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Real life isn’t a Marvel movie.

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