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https://twitter.com/un_hrc/status/1578003299827171330

-18 points

4 months ago

But unsurprisingly, none of these people ever complain about Uyghur genocide—the other Muslims.

You know who else doesn’t complain about it? Other Muslims, because they know it’s bullshit.

#HRC51 | Draft resolution A/HRC/51/L.6 on holding a debate on the situation of human rights in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of #China, was REJECTED.

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If China really didn’t have anything to hide then they or any other superpower would be willing to allow independent un escorted investigators and journalists and to see the conditions.

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Eldritch@lemmy.world

9 points

4 months ago

That’s not what that means. That’s not what any of that means. And you know it. Why such bad faith arguments? If your argument were rational and logical then the genocide in Gaza isn’t happening either. Because there’s large groups of people that don’t really care about it. Probably even large groups of Muslims who have other larger going concerns than it.

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-5 points

4 months ago

It was the United States that blocked that UN visit: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-rights/u-s-germany-slam-china-at-u-n-security-council-over-xinjiang-diplomats-idUSKCN1TX2YZ/

Last month the United States, Britain and other western countries objected to a visit by the United Nations counterterrorism chief to Xinjiang, concerned the visit would validate China’s argument that it was tackling terrorism.

Delegates from Muslim countries did visit. From the US’ own propaganda outlet: Arab League Visits China’s Xinjiang Region, Rejects Uyghur Genocide

If your argument were rational and logical then the genocide in Gaza isn’t happening either.

Speaking of rationality & logic, that sentence is sheer nonsense.

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ravhall@discuss.online

-4 points

4 months ago

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-14 points

4 months ago

Reason: Genocide denial

Best of luck with your censorship efforts.

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ravhall@discuss.online

10 points

4 months ago

Me, talking about real genocide.

You, denying genocide.

You, suggesting I’m censoring the right to deny genocide.

Me, still talking about real genocide.

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-7 points

4 months ago

I will indeed do that.

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https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/genocide-conv-1948/article-2

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jordanlund@lemmy.worldM

3 points

4 months ago

You really need to stop denying genocide.

Article 2 of the genocide convention:

"In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

✅ (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

✅ © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

✅ (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

✅ (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."

Source:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037

"The declarations follow reports that, as well as interning Uyghurs in camps, China has been forcibly mass sterilising Uyghur women to suppress the population, separating children from their families, and attempting to break the cultural traditions of the group.

The US Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, has said China is committing “genocide and crimes against humanity”.

The UK parliament declared in April 2021 that China was committing a genocide in Xinjiang.

A UN human rights committee in 2018 said it had credible reports that China was holding up to a million people in “counter-extremism centres” in Xinjiang.

The Australian Strategic Policy Institute found evidence in 2020 of more than 380 of these “re-education camps” in Xinjiang, an increase of 40% on previous estimates.

Analysis of data contained in the latest police documents, called the Xinjiang Police Files, showed that almost 23,000 residents - or more than 12% of the adult population of one county - were in a camp or prison in the years 2017 and 2018. If applied to Xinjiang as a whole, the figures would mean the detention of more than 1.2 million Uyghur and other Turkic minority adults."

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0 points

4 months ago

You really need to stop denying genocide.

I won’t, but I’ll try to refrain from commenting on it in your communities. (And yes, I’m familiar with the Convention’s definition of genocide and have taken it into account.)

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