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21 days ago

So your answer is no then?

You want me to waste my time telling a MAGA chud to stop supporting genocide?

Well, it’s about as likely as convincing a lemmy centrist to stop supporting genocide, and I already try to do that. Gonna call today.

Parties pull funding when it’s clear there is no path to victory, so they can ensure victory elsewhere. That’s not them “rather have a maga chud” that’s strategic.

That would be convincing if they hadn’t spent money buying ads for maga candidates during that same election cycle.

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MonkRome@lemmy.world

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21 days ago

That would be convincing if they hadn’t spent money buying ads for maga candidates during that same election cycle.

I agree, that was an awful strategy. Even if it helps in the short term, it boosts fascism in the long term. It did mostly gain us seats though… https://www.npr.org/2022/11/11/1135878576/the-democrats-strategy-of-boosting-far-right-candidates-seems-to-have-worked

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21 days ago

I agree, that was an awful strategy.

The party considered the money better spent on maga candidates than on progressives.

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MonkRome@lemmy.world

2 points

21 days ago

Politics is a zero sum game, they saw the money better spent on winning. Your framing of it is dishonest. Again, I don’t agree with doing that, but it’s pretty easy to understand why they did it, it worked.

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21 days ago

I don’t agree with doing that, but it’s pretty easy to understand why they did it,

Yeah. They had to spend the money somewhere, and it wasn’t going to be on a progressive.

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MonkRome@lemmy.world

1 point

20 days ago

I tried… I’ve both worked and volunteered in the party for thousands of hours. Most of the people working in the party want progressive policy, but we don’t live in a country that gets enough votes from progressives, so politicians predictably play it safe. You can’t wave a magic wand and poof, you have all the votes you need for progressive policy. Politicians are paid to represent their constituents. If even 5 percent of Dems won in a conservative district, or a district where only conservatives show up, then those districts wants and needs will not pass the most progressive policy. So people in the party work to pass what they can pass, that makes them practical, not anti-progressive. People with brains do what they can with what they have.

The more Dems we can get into office the more opportunities we have to move the needle left. You don’t move the needle left with constant infighting within the left. You move the needle left, by the left wing uniting and gaining a clear mandate. We haven’t had a real left wing mandate in my lifetime and people act like Dems should magically pass progressive policy without the votes, then they whine and stay home because the party without enough power to accomplish anything, predictably didn’t accomplish anything. It’s and endless self fulfilling prophecy and it’s incredibly moronic. I’m just so tired of seeing your endless doomsaying all overy lemmy, fucking do something instead of bringing everyone down with your lies and toxicity.

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20 days ago

Centrists do everything they can to hamstring progressives, and then gleefully announce that progressives can’t win.

Centrists do everything they can to hamstring progressives, and then demand perfect and permanent unity no matter what they do.

You’ve internalized this. This thread is about how the Democratic candidate for President won’t commit to stop enabling genocide. Won’t even pull back at all from the current system that rewards Netanyahu for committing genocide and broadening it into a regional war. And you’re expecting everyone to be all sunshine and rainbows about the system that got us here.

Just go along with our superfund-toxic positivity about genocide, or you want Trump to win!

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