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I had a stroke while reading this. Can you clarify what you meant?

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when somebody raises the objection that plants feel pain, it’s not an appeal to hypocrisy. it’s a statement of fact whether we can prove it or not. and it’s the premise of a larger argument. that argument goes

pain is an inevitable facet of food production

food production is a moral good

an inevitable facet of food production cannot make food production bad

therefore

food production remains a moral good

your rebuttal was targeted at defending against the accusation of hypocrisy, but the devastating bit has nothing to do with the hypocrisy.

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Pain might be an inevitable facet of food production (crop deaths). But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to eliminate as much pain as we reasonably can.


Pain is an inevitable facet of surgery

Surgery is a moral good

an inevitable facet of surgery cannot make surgey bad

surgery remains a moral good


The fact that pain is inevitable to surgery doesn’t mean we should stop giving patients anesthesia and pain medication.

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there is an obvious case for easing the pain of humans, but not so much for our food.

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