Tulsi Gabbard Completes MAGA Makeover by Endorsing Donald Trump(www.thedailybeast.com)

Again, I try to share things not seen in Lemmy, so it is expected that people only wanting the status quo will push against anything outside of that view point.

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CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca

21 points

4 months ago

So basically accuse people of “the duopoly” or whatever. Great quotes:

“People are different and this is why everyone is wrong”

“Citing “Class war” means I don’t have to be accurate or even remotely correct”

“My fisher-price understanding of politics means there’s no room for debate…”

Something something about wrestling with a pig and how much they like getting everyone dirty…

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jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world

-22 points

4 months ago

Going back to these quotes:

“I don’t criticize Democrats cuz I side with Republicans, I criticize Democrats Cuz THEY side with Republicans.”

“Our fight is not Left/Right anymore, it is Us vs.Them.”

“We have 2 corporate party’s that serve Wall St/War Machine/Corporations & crush everyone else. #UniParty @0rf”

Just by reading these quotes, it should tell you more than plenty of our difference in world views.

It is just a difference in opinion, no need to put words in my mouth or assume anything that I am or am not for.

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CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca

18 points

4 months ago

I don’t think anyone on Lemmy is ever downvoting you because of difference of intention.

Sorry to be the messenger BUT YOU ARE CONSTANTLY DISMISSED BECASE OF THE WEAKNESS OF YOUR ARGUMENT.

You aren’t really different in intention from anyone else you just end up with the shittiest take that no one can understand or relate to.

Like consider yourself in a room of liberal manifesto folks and all you can do is spout Hillary Clinton conspiracies… maybe the issue isn’t protecting kids… maybe it’s you?

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TheHiddenCatboy@lemmy.world

1 point

4 months ago

One thing that the dishonest debaters like to do is come in and claim they really represent a group of people while proposing ideas that would result in serious harm to that group of people if implemented.

I pointed out how votes can be poisoned through the Schoolhouse Example elsewhere in this thread. A few votes in a weak location can result in all of us being ‘represented’ by people who mean to harm our interests.

There are two major factions vying for political control in the USA. Democrats are our ‘Left’ party, and yes, it’d be pretty darn Right in another country, but the US isn’t a Left-Leaning country by any measure, so the Dems are the best we can get. They represent a slow-walk towards the cliff of civil rights destruction, and yes, I’d love an alternative to them. But we must remember the Other Side – an Alt-Right Authoritarian Dictatorship in waiting, led by a convicted felon with a need for this office and a plan (Project 2025) for when he gets in that will result in real harms to workers and minorities – a full-tilt run at that cliff I mentioned before.

How can you claim to be pro-worker while depressing the turnout for the major party most favourable to workers? How can you claim to be pro-minority by making minorities stay home or vote third party? How can you do this knowing that Cheerleader will win 48/30/16 if you listen to the bogus memes being put out by Team Bookish Girl? You can’t…unless your goal is to ensure that the Democrats lose and thus giving the election to the Republicans and subjecting all of us to Project 2025.

I’d like to call these users out, but Rule 3 prevents me, even as these users refers to me and the rest of the actual pro-worker and pro-minorities ‘Blue MAGA’, but maybe this rational discussion can highlight what the threat from these dishonest debaters actually are.

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