Trump aides alarmed he's 'just golfing all day and stewing' as election slips away: WaPo(www.rawstory.com)

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just_another_person@lemmy.world

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Factually, that’s what he did during his time in office as well. I’m not sure what they thought had changed.

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Jackie's Fridge@lemmy.world

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3 months ago

“Boosting their numbers” in the single biggest election doesn’t make them a viable party. Third party candidates got an average of 5% of the vote in the 2016 presidential election (unless you include Utah to blow the bell curve to a whopping 7%).

Getting that party’s candidates established in local governments across the nation so they gain a following, experience, and momentum is what does make them viable. It’s not easy, but it’s the only way. Zero people care who didn’t win the presidential election or why - it’s winner take all. No message is received.

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Macallan@lemmy.world

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3 months ago

I don’t care. I didn’t like either candidate and voted accordingly. 2016 wasn’t my fault. Put up a better candidate and I would have voted for them.

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Communist_Synthesizer@lemmy.world

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3 months ago

I mean, wasn’t it?

The only people that can claim that are folks that voted for Hillary. Not voting or voting third party, you’re still participating, you’re just pulling the lever that reads, “I’ll go with whoever the majority is”.

That year it turned out to be Trump. You did choose, a passive choice is still a choice.

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Macallan@lemmy.world

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3 months ago

You’re right. I did make a choice. I made a choice to not vote for either of those fuck heads. I’m not sorry I didn’t vote for Hillary. You want my vote, put up a better candidate. Still don’t think it was my fault.

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Communist_Synthesizer@lemmy.world

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3 months ago

Look, you can do what you want, but you should stop pretending you somehow aren’t partly responsible for a Trump presidency because you went third party. If a restaurant offers chicken or beef, and you say “whatever everyone is having”, and they gave you chicken?

You did choose. You chose chicken.

You said, “I don’t really care what I get, let other people decide.” Letting other people decide for you is still a choice.

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Macallan@lemmy.world

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3 months ago

That’s the thing. I was offered Chicken or Beef and wasn’t interested in either, so I ordered shrimp.

Still not sorry I didn’t vote for Hillary.

Like I said before, offer me something I’m interested in and you have my support. If you don’t, you don’t have my support.

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Communist_Synthesizer@lemmy.world

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3 months ago

The restaurant isn’t selling shrimp, bud. I don’t know what to tell ya.

You’re not 5 years old. Pick what you want to eat, and stop complaining about it. It’s chicken or beef, what do you want? I mean, there’s ways around it? You could have cooked at home, there’s a reason people tell you to vote down ballot, pay attention to local races, bring up people through the system etc.

All that is work. It takes time. And you have to do the dishes afterwards. You didn’t want to do any of that, (Honestly I don’t either) so we’re both eating at the same restaurant.

And unfortunately, that means we get to eat what the restaurant is selling. Chicken or beef.

Voting is the lowest possible effort you can make when participating in the political process. And not voting is as much a choice as voting for the options others present to you. You just chose to do whatever the group decides.

You’re doing the equivalent of showing up at the end of a group project you skipped out on and expecting everyone to redo all their work because you don’t like either of the options presented.

No amount of whining and moaning is going to change the fact that you’re still getting the same grade everyone else is getting. You are getting on everyone’s nerves though. Nobody likes a lazy entitled dude that ‘thinks’ he should be in charge but isn’t willing to actually do any work.

You can choose not to vote. But if things go wrong, don’t claim you’re somehow above it all.

It’s frankly ridiculous.

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