The president often had a weak, raspy voice during his first debate against Trump, in what Democrats had hoped would be a turning point in the race.
For their part, the DNC and Wasserman Schultz have characterized the DNC charter’s promise of “impartiality and evenhandedness” as a mere political promise——political rhetoric that is not enforceable in federal courts. The Court does not accept this trivialization of the DNC’s governing principles. While it may be true in the abstract that the DNC has the right to have its delegates “go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way,” DE 54, at 36:22-24, the DNC, through its charter, has committed itself to a higher principle.
That “cigars” quote was from the DNC’s legal counsel, acting as the party’s representative in court. This was after the party had already engaged in fuckery and were arguing in court that they should get away with it.
That’s the party’s position regarding its charter when it’s convenient to do so, which is to say, when they want to fuck over a progressive. But when there’s a centrist that the party wants to hang on to, then the charter was brought down on stone tablets from Mount Sinai.
DE 54, at 36:22-24
Link? The only way for people to know if you are taking things out of context is to provide a link.
political rhetoric that is not enforceable in federal courts. The Court does not accept this trivialization of the DNC’s governing principles…the DNC, through its charter, has committed itself to a higher principle.
So it is exactly like I told you. No court would allow the Executive Committee to disregard the charter, let alone purge the DNC membership of the newly elected delegates.
Wasserman Schultz have characterized the DNC charter’s promise of “impartiality and evenhandedness” as a mere political promise
This is a judge characterizing something. There are no quotes from the DNC’s hired lawyer, let alone from an actual former DNC member, let alone from a current DNC member. You need to provide an actual quote from an actual DNC member before we can judge this claim accurately.
Wasserman Schultz
She’s not even there no more. She is not “the DNC”.
That’s the party’s position
It’s not the “party’s position”, and certainly not anything they could legally do. All you have provided is a judge’s characterization of a former members characterization who wasn’t there to give any testimony and which was completely rejected by the judge. We haven’t seen any actual quotes of any actual current or former members of the DNC executive committee.
If the judge said that a DNC member could not break the law on some trivial thing why the hell would you think the legal system would allow the current DNC to reject a fundamental rule that the newly elected delegates ARE ALREADY MEMBERS OF THE DNC and can not be arbitrarily purged? The DNC members legally controls who the executive committee members are (and will do so at the convention). You are asserting the exact opposite is true. The executive committee does not have the legal right to remove members of the DNC. You have things 100% backwards. Bernie Sanders would personally explain that to you if you had a chance to talk to him.
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/WildingDNC.pdf
Here’s your fucking link. Now don’t read it, immediately dismiss it and demand even more granular proof of what I initially said.
She’s not even there no more. She is not “the DNC”.
Considering that the entire reason they were in court revolved arounf the 2016 election, her corruption was going to be central. The party argued that their charter didn’t have to be followed, and the judge agreed and dismissed the case. Which you already know and are ignoring in bad faith now that it’s convenient to do so for the centrist wing of the party.
Your wing of the party. If every bad faith centrist who claims they voted for Sanders in the primary actually had, Sanders would have won both the primaries and the general.
Here’s your fucking link. Now don’t read it, immediately dismiss it and demand even more granular proof of what I initially said.
Okay. But I got no idea what “DE 54, at 36:22-24” is supposed to mean. I’ve never seen this before. And the first thing I noticed is that Bernie Sanders has nothing to do with this because he’s not an idiot.
and the judge agreed
Dude what part of "The Court does not accept this trivialization of the DNC’s governing principles. " do you not understand? The judge did not agree that the charter can be dismissed. The judge dismissed the case because plaintiff did not prove any acts of impartiality.
Which you already know and are ignoring in bad faith
Go fuck off with your god damn lies. You don’t know shit about me. You are the only one who cares about Kremlin progaganda from 8 years ago. Normal people do not.
If every bad faith centrist who claims they voted for Sanders in the primary actually had
You aren’t talking about me. Because I did vote for Sanders twice, and am not a “centrist”. You only heard of Sanders when he ran for president in 2016 right? I was a fan of Sanders since before he became a senator when he was just a congressman in the 1990’s.
[But they do not allege they ever heard or acted upon the DNC’s claims of neutrality.]
The random person filing this lawsuit is not even alleging that the DNC failed to act impartial. She is apparently alleging that DWS PRIVATELY expressed support for Clinton. So what?
[The DNC’s bias, according to Plaintiffs, came to light after computer hackers penetrated the DNC’s computer network. An individual identified as “Guccifer 2.0"]
You know this is Putin right? You were played by Putin so he could get stooge Traitorapest Trump elected. Doesn’t that embarrass you? Sanders was outraged more than any other Dem about Trump’s gigantic tax cuts for billionaires. So everybody who fell for Kremlin propaganda let down Bernie Sanders.
[The DNC and Wasserman Schultz argue that
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Plaintiffs lack standing to assert their claims,
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that they have insufficiently pled those claims,
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and that the class allegations must be stricken as facially deficient.]
NONE OF THEIR 3 ARGUMENTS are claiming that they don’t have to follow the charter. WHY ARE YOU WASTING MY TIME?
[For their part, the DNC and Wasserman Schultz have characterized the DNC charter’s promise of “impartiality and evenhandedness” as a mere political promise]
First of all this is the judge characterizing that DWS is characterizing something. None of these are direct quotes. THE JUDGE DID NOT SAY THAT THIS WAS ONE IF THE 3 ARGUMENTS of the DNC in the case. We would have the have the original direct quotes of DWS to know if she was seriously pretending that she could ignore the charter. If we had such quotes than DWS would have been immediately fired from the DNC, if she hadn’t already quit.
[While it may be true in the abstract that the DNC has the right to have its delegates “go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way,” DE 54, at 36:22-24, the DNC, through its charter, has committed itself to a higher principle. ]
So even in the absolute worst case interpretation of this, there is nothing about the DNC claiming the right to dismiss its delegates. And There is nothing about the DNC claiming the delegates don’t have the right to chose the nominee. Which you are implying. WHY ARE YOU WASTING MY TIME?