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Your scaremongering hypotheticals are not going to distract me from the actual genocide I can see unfolding in front of us.

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Your scaremongering hypotheticals

I’m glad you’re privileged enough that fascism is just a ‘scaremongering hypothetical’ to you.

are not going to distract me from the actual genocide I can see unfolding in front of us.

You already seem pretty distracted from the actual genocide going on, considering that you’re openly advocating for letting the “Finish The Job” types accumulate control over the government because [checks notes] voting for harm reduction wouldn’t be as satisfying as voting for self-aggrandizement and total genocide of the Gaza Strip.

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Oh, I do think Trump is a fascist. (And Biden is supporting a fascist in Israel, so what’s the difference?)

I meant that the bit about death camps was scaremongering.

Trump says murderers and rapists will pour across the border. You say Trump will bring in death camps. Aren’t you sick of all the scaremongering?

And even if death camps are a possibility, you’re asking me to weigh the possibility of death camps against a very real genocide that is happening right now.

And, I’m sorry, but it is not even close. You still have more power than any Palestinian has. You have not been bombed by your government. Your borders have not been closed. You can flee to Canada if you need to. The Palestinians can’t.

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Oh, I do think Trump is a fascist. (And Biden is supporting a fascist in Israel, so what’s the difference?)

What’s the difference between a fascist who has openly stated an intention to shift to unlimited support for Israel to ‘finish the job’ and someone who has expressed limited (if insufficient) support for restraining Israel?

I wonder. Or maybe it’s the difference between one openly stating an intention to end democracy here, in the US, while the other quite openly opposes the idea of ending democracy in the US?

I guess those are minor differences in the end. Who cares if fascism comes to America, right? It won’t affect the people voting to let it in.

Trump says murderers and rapists will pour across the border. You say Trump will bring in death camps. Aren’t you sick of all the scaremongering?

Wow, I’m so glad that the prospect of the death of minorities at the hands of a regime you yourself admit is fascist is equivalent to baseless right-wing claims of “murderers and rapists” pouring across the border. Great.

And even if death camps are a possibility, you’re asking me to weigh the possibility of death camps against a very real genocide that is happening right now.

I’m really not. I’m asking you to weigh one thing, and one thing only - what difference your vote and advocacy will make in this election.

As much as it would thrill me to have the American electorate take a sudden and sharp turn left, erasing the past several decades of voting trends, in the next four months, it is exceedingly unlikely, especially considering polling on the current issues that dominate people’s minds. Therefore, one must ask what the risks are for each realistic candidate’s victory.

For a Biden victory, the risk is insufficient opposition to the ongoing genocide in Gaza and a lack of substantive resolutions to any of the problems facing the US at this point in time.

For a Trump victory, the risk is total US support for the ongoing genocide in Gaza, the abolition of what democracy the US does have, genocide in Ukraine, sterilization camps for immigrants (we had those during the Trump years, before you cry “Well that’s just scaremongering”, it was kind of a big deal to those few of us who pay attention to politics in this country), a self-proclaimed ‘day-one dictator’, and everything in the fucking Project 2025 outline coming to fruition.

Voting third party on the presidential level in this election is nothing more than an abstain. “I don’t care which of those outcomes comes true.”

Are those two victories equivalent in your eyes?

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