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You’re trying to make this a false dichotomy. That’s a form of logical fallacy, and it’s manipulative.

You do realize that not all dichotomies are false dichotomies, right?

Here - why don’t you outline a realistic plan that leads to neither Biden nor Trump being elected, and how you plan to achieve that. That way you can prove that “The two near-majority polling candidates, and the only two that will be on the ballot in every state, aren’t the only practical options”, and that you aren’t just misusing terms out of an ignorance of what they mean.

It’s like those trolley problems about “do you throw the switch or not”? The thing I would do is try to fix the brakes. And if people on the track die, that is the fault of whoever tied them to the track, not me.

It’s astounding that you manage to miss the entire point of a trolley problem.

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why don’t you outline a realistic plan that leads to neither Biden nor Trump being elected

The Democrats replace Biden with a better candidate, like Gretchen Whitman.

(Not Gavin Newsom. He’s just as pro-Israel as Biden.)

and how you plan to achieve that

Why is that my job?

It’s astounding that you manage to miss the entire point of a trolley problem.

Internet memes about the trolley problem actually fail to present it completely. After the ponderer decides that killing one person is better than killing five people, they are then asked if it’s okay to push a bystander off a bridge onto the train tracks if that would derail the train and prevent it killing five people.

To me, the ultimate lesson of the trolley problem is that morality is not a matter of trading fewer lives for more lives. That’s why I’m not listening to your “Biden probably means fewer deaths than Trump” argument. Voting for either of them violates my sense of morality.

I’d rather work on dismantling the tracks, even if it might take a while.

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Why is that my job?

Because you’re a citizen. That’s what being a citizen means. If you don’t want to share in political power, I’m given to understand there’s an wannabe autocrat who you’re currently assisting who will gladly take the ‘burden’ of responsibility away from you. That way when you smile at all the minorities being herded into death camps, you can say “Don’t worry! It wasn’t my decision!” as you close the gate behind them.

Internet memes about the trolley problem actually fail to present it completely. After the ponderer decides that killing one person is better than killing five people, they are then asked if it’s okay to push a bystander off a bridge onto the train tracks if that would derail the train and prevent it killing five people.

To me, the ultimate lesson of the trolley problem is that morality is not a matter of trading fewer lives for more lives. That’s why I’m not listening to your “Biden probably means fewer deaths than Trump” argument. Voting for either of them violates my sense of morality.

Cool, so instead of seeing Palestinians die, you’re going to see MORE Palestinians die AND Americans AND Ukrainians AND see a decline in freedom, equality, and living standards across the board. Fucking wonderful. “Let’s make things worse, because that’s what my morality says is best!”

You save literally no one, kill additional people, make the system worse, because… you don’t want to make a decision.

That’s fucking vile.

I’d rather work on dismantling the tracks, even if it might take a while.

Cool, how do you think that’s going to work under an openly fascist regime?

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Because you’re a citizen. That’s what being a citizen means.

As a citizen, I am working on building support for third-party candidates who are outside of the Democrat-Republican Duopoly (which is really just a Monopoly).

I don’t care if it’s realistic. It’s the only option I see. I’m not supporting a genocide.

Relevant pic: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/11rrvt/be_this_guy/

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