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He got out to yell at some vandals and he got beat. If he could protect himself, the right people would have been punished. The man had his entire life in that car, he was probably not in the best place mentally. Why was that his life? What about him? You seem to be siding with the criminals because the victim wanted to stop a crime.

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what crime was he trying to stop? the kids threw a plastic bottle and it hit his car. like oops oh well, move along Mr. Uluu

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It’s totally the victim’s fault. Obviously.

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He got out to yell at some vandals and he got beat. If he could protect himself, the right people would have been punished.

Just so I understand your position: Are you saying justice is served when a plastic bottle is thrown at a car (which caused zero damage) should result in the bottle thrower and those with the bottle thrower being shot (possibly to death)?

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So you understand justice is served when some guy gets out of the car to yell at you, and you and your friends beat him near death and destroy and steal everything he owns?

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You didn’t contradict what I heard you say, so I’ll take that as I understood you right.

So you understand justice is served when some guy gets out of the car to yell at you, and you and your friends beat him near death and destroy and steal everything he owns?

No, but I’m glad you’re recognizing that there are differences in the level of actions and that can constitute a reasonable response. Keep building on that:

  • Throwing a plastic bottle at a vehicle which results in no damage should NOT result in a vigilante sentence of death.
  • Yelling at someone should NOT result in them being assaulted, their property damaged and stolen.

So how can either of these things be avoided?

  • The bottle thrower could choose to NOT throw the bottle
  • The yeller could choose NOT stop and yell.

Look at that! At the end of the day there’s no property damage and no deaths of anyone!

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I’m not saying they where right for beating him, I’m saying getting out of your car and escalating things isn’t helping anything.

If a mob comes to beat your ass, potentially to death, and you shoot someone to prevent it, yeah that’s justified (and probably should be legally), but it isn’t justice. You don’t get to be fucking Judge Dredd, and act like self-defense puts you on some moral high-ground. You are not a stand-in for the legal system, which in and of itself is already incredibly flawed.

If you left your car and started shouting at them like a fuckwit before doing so, you might not deserve the beat down but you did kind of earn it. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. You’re not going to accomplish anything by yelling at that crowd other than painting a target on your back.

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I think the stupid game is throwing the bottle.

There are two kinds of people. The ones who blame the bad guy, and the ones who blame the victim for getting mad at the bad guy.

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Both can be dipshits.

There are lots of kinds of people, for example, you’re the sort that fails to see nuance. If you did you wouldn’t be putting everything into a right or wrong binary. Talking about ‘justice’ being when the ‘right’ people get punished like a fucking child.

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