Hating on beehaw makes perfect sense, then. Fascists and an empathy-negating neurosis, generally due to early childhood trauma in that area, name a more iconic duo. All those other things (commies, progressives, furries) actually have their fascist versions but hippies? Forget it. Incompatible in principle.

I’m too lazy to look through their comment history at the moment, but you’re probably right.

Thank you for pointing this out, I was quite surprised it got this many upvotes.

Man, I was in the trenches of online forums at the time. I was PART of those times. I just eventually grew up past being an edgy preteen.

Yeah… especially considering our general stances on things, that inversion really sucks. Hopefully this isn’t a common opinion.

Reading that actually made me double-take and check the modlogs. It was so…. Confident.

People like you are the reason why so many people go towards the right side.

If your worldview is so fragile that a couple mean comments turn you into a hateful shit bag rightoid, you were never on the left to start with, you’re just looking for some #walkaway excuse

Also you are literally a fucking nazi

“Everyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi” makes you look like the child you are.

Now respectfully, reconsider all your life choices and fuck off.

Take your own advice, and also go touch some fucking grass.

Oh and there are instances that just practice full free speech as long as its not illegal where they host LW bans people for speaking the truth, especially regarding Israel vs Russia and Iran(by proxy)

I have not seen a SINGLE one of those instances. And my instance federates with literally everything except for like 3 instances. I’m not saying you’re making things up, but outside of extreme fringe communities, almost every (large) Lemmy instance is as “woke” or more “woke” than lemmy.world. lemmy.blahaj.zone, lemm.ee, lemmy.ml, probably even sh.itjust.works (that one’s debatable), lemmy.dbzer0.com, sopuli.xyz… I can go on and on. Leftism is way more prevalent in most of those. And yes, the kind that says you shouldn’t displace millions or be sexist.

The new left is the Israel hating crowd of the left

A large chunk of the left has always been anti-Zionism and pro-self-determination, because Israel is literally modern-day colonization. This isn’t anything new. The official government of Palestine is full-on Socialist, and it was founded 80 years ago (with other major leftist groups in Palestine dating back even before the Israeli colonization). It’s just the difference between the “leftists” who are okay with an ethnostate perpetrating an ethnic cleansing (Israel), and the leftists who aren’t.

because its against imperialism or something stupid along those lines.

For a lot of people that’s part of the reason, but most of the reason is they’re against the displacement, ethnic cleansing, and genocide of Palestinians that started during the colonization of the area by modern-day Israelis. The ruling party of Israel and most of the other parties in the government are descended from organizations that literally described themselves as terrorists, and butchered the population of Palestine since the early 1900s. And, get this, the dominating organizations during this era aligned themselves with Nazism – the Lehi (a faction of the Irgun, modern day Likud – Netanyahu’s party and Israel’s dominant party) proposed an alliance with Nazi Germany as they saw Great Britain as a larger threat to Jews. They described themselves and their members, I’m not even joking, as “National Bolshevik terrorists” (nazbols/communist nazis). Go figure.

Many of the members of government actively cheered on or committed genocide, and everyone alive knows someone who participated in the displacement and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. The area didn’t just go from its population of 90% Muslim and 2% Jewish in 1800, to 81% Muslim and 8% Jewish in 1890, to 32% Jewish in 1947, to 89% Jewish in 1948 (the year the Nakba/ethnic cleansing of Arabs started), using kind words and diplomacy. (Jewish Virtual Library). Europeans encouraged Jews to colonize the area (which hadn’t been populated by Jews in large numbers since the 5th century) in order to get them out of the country (the early British Zionists in particular were keen on taking all the Jews in the UK and shipping them off to Israel, as antisemitism was the norm in western Europe until the whole World War 2 thing), and gave those newfound Israelis the weapons to blow up a whole lot of natives. These migrations were simply called Aliyah, and they happened in a few waves.

It is a state that is built upon, and cannot exist without, “Jewish supremacy”. It’s in the constitution, it’s in the law, it’s in their flag, it’s in the Muslims & Arabs in the country not having the civil rights of Jews, the entirety of Israel exists specifically to be an ethnostate. And the foundation of Israel was by parties who aligned themselves with Nazi Germany, and who took great inspiration from them.

When you’re “leftist” – that is, when you’re for abolishing unjust hierarchies and moving towards social equality – the concept of Israel and its former and current actions is inherently counter to your ideology. There’s absolutely no getting around that.

Oh also they are hyper sensitive regarding the use of words they feel like it could hurt someone, and im not talking about the n-word or similarly high grade insults.

What words are these, exactly? If they’re not slurs then I don’t see what you’re talking about. Unless you’re referring to people talking about microaggressions – which is the linguistic phenomenon of biases against certain social groups being conveyed in language, which propogates harmful beliefs. You know, saying women or asians can’t drive well, saying you wouldn’t want to have a woman perform surgery on you, saying a guy hugging another guy is gay… obviously those are pretty shitty things to say.

Im politically Old left, workers unions, reasonable climate policies, inclusiveness where it is necessary and reasonable and so on, these people in the “woke” spectrum are usually the people that pipeline people to the right with their unintelligent and crazy behavior.

Yeah nah man you’re waffling. There is no “old left”. The left is more or less the same philisophy-wise; there are socially conservative people and socially progressive people – you, my friend, seem to be describing yourself as a mildly socially conservative social democrat. There’s nothing more old or authentic or original about your philosophy – it’s just German centrism.

And woke is just a good fitting therm for the new left idiots, because these people made this therm about themselves.

The usage of the term in the social progressive context literally dates back to the 1930s. That’s almost certainly older than even your parents. How can you claim that that’s characteristic of the “new left” when it’s been around in use longer than your country’s even existed?

Oh, OK. You’re completely unhinged and have added nothing to the discourse.

I’m going to stoop to your level before not engaging further: I’m not a Nazi, you’re a Nazi! :p

If Ukraine starts bombing noncombatants at hospitals and schools, blocking food and water, and executing journalists I bet people would call that genocide.