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I’m on the fence on that. He raped a minor which is not excusable, he possibly ruined her life. How can a person like that be redeemed? Or does he not deserve redemption? He was 19. When I was 19, I was an irresponsible child. There is no proof that he is a pedophile.

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There is no proof that he is a pedophile.

Not entirely sure where you’re going with this. He’s not an irredeemable asshole because he might be a pedophile, he’s an irredeemable asshole because he raped a child and that’s indisputable.

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Hi, friend. I’m sure you have well-meaning intentions by making this comment. As someone who was a survivor of a similar situation such as this, and who also grew into a 19 year old, I can tell you that from a non-clinical perspective, if you are attracted to a child of early puberty age as a 19 year old adult, I don’t think making this assumption is too far off the table. I’m sick and tired of coming on here and listening to this discourse about this volleyball player. Thank you for your two sides to every story, attempt at nuance and empathy for a rapist here. As a survivor of CSA, this has never been granted to me or anyone else I know of that has survived something like this. We need a different reaction to people who do these acts to innocent children.

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No. People who don’t even bother offering anything in the way of apology for their atrocities do not deserve redemption.

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I was stupid at 19 too, but for me that meant letting my at-the-time boyfriend finish inside even though I didn’t know him nearly well enough. Turned out he was slutting out it with randos and never got tested before our relationship. That’s around the stupid I expect at 19.

Rape is a bit fucking beyond that, don’t you think?

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Get help before you hurt someone.

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Bro she was like 12. I was also an irresponsible child at 19, but I wasn’t raping 12 year olds, nor did it cross my mind.

Playing devil’s advocate on pedophilia is not it.

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You should check the definition of pedophilia.

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Well actually-ing pedophilia is not a good look.

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The fact that your reply has fewer points than that rape apologist’s is infuriating, wtf is wrong with people??

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Dunno about you, but when I was 19 the thought of raping a child never crossed my mind. He’s spent less than a year in prison, and hasn’t repented for what he did. Redemption has to at the very least come with an understanding that what he did was wrong.

Edit: slightly more than a year; 13 months

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He’s spent more than a year in prison.

Also, we can’t take his words for gospel, but atleast he acts as if he’s repented:

“I can’t reverse it, so I have to carry the consequences. It’s the biggest mistake of my life.”

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Yes, a whole 13 months. What a punishment for raping a 12-year-old girl over and over.

And that isn’t repenting. Repenting includes an apology for what he did.

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I bet “raping a child” did neither cross his mind, when he did it.

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He groomed the child for YEARS before he raped her. It’s wild you’re defending this

Edit: I can’t find the article I thought I read about him first meeting the child when they were 10

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There’s a pretty obvious difference between a kid who’s 12, and someone you could reasonably mistake for being an adult (UK age of consent is 16).

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he raped a minor

no proof that he’s a pedophile

Are you stupid?

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Did you know most child rapists don’t fit pedophilia diagnostic critia?

Edit: I read an article on him and he has a 2 year old son. I really hope he isn’t a pedophile.

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If you go by medical definition, that would be hebephilia. Pedophilia is only used with children younger than 11.

The reason in this case could also have been because she was an easy target, the age must not necessarily be the reason.

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Repeatedly telling people he’s not technically a pedophile is really not in any way helpful. He raped a 12-year-old multiple times. Who is it hurting to call him a pedophile?

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The majority of child molesters are not pedophiles. It is more about power dynamics / them being an easy target.

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